Need help/suggestions

Author: Ryan.is.Tryin

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:37 am

Ah, I wasn’t aware of all that but I totally understand. I like to have a place to come if I have a question or need some support. But most of the time, I stay away from all the drug related stuff on the internet. When I was a junky I would search and search but now, I just like to forget about all that and get on in my own world.

Have fun and good luck to ya.

Need help/suggestions

Author: Ryan.is.Tryin

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:37 am

Ah, I wasn’t aware of all that but I totally understand. I like to have a place to come if I have a question or need some support. But most of the time, I stay away from all the drug related stuff on the internet. When I was a junky I would search and search but now, I just like to forget about all that and get on in my own world.

Have fun and good luck to ya.

Day 3 no sub- Worst Here or Yet to Come? Your Opinion Wanted

Author: Romeo

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:41 am

I started this thread a while back, check it out, it’s about social anxiety. If I remember correctly, there were some good suggestions in there.

http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3836

Also, now that you did use, you may find that door to a relapse still open. Only you truly know if it’s open or not. I just want you to think about it.

Another thing I remember from my time in NA was this quote out of the Basic Text, "You never HAVE to use drugs again." That simple, yet profound statement floored me when I read it. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that!! For some reason, even though I had completely quit drugs by the time I read it, I still had a notion in my head that I was gonna use again, but reading that statement helped me to understand that I really don’t ever have to use drugs again. I used drugs because I wanted to, not because I had to. Once I realized that, I started trying to understand why I wanted to use drugs and one by one started addressing those behaviors and thoughts that made me want to use.

In your case, you’ve already figured out that social situations tend to make you want to use and that’s a huge breakthrough. It took me months and months to make the progress you’ve made in a few days!!

Day 3 no sub- Worst Here or Yet to Come? Your Opinion Wanted

Author: Romeo

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:41 am

I started this thread a while back, check it out, it’s about social anxiety. If I remember correctly, there were some good suggestions in there.

http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3836

Also, now that you did use, you may find that door to a relapse still open. Only you truly know if it’s open or not. I just want you to think about it.

Another thing I remember from my time in NA was this quote out of the Basic Text, "You never HAVE to use drugs again." That simple, yet profound statement floored me when I read it. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that!! For some reason, even though I had completely quit drugs by the time I read it, I still had a notion in my head that I was gonna use again, but reading that statement helped me to understand that I really don’t ever have to use drugs again. I used drugs because I wanted to, not because I had to. Once I realized that, I started trying to understand why I wanted to use drugs and one by one started addressing those behaviors and thoughts that made me want to use.

In your case, you’ve already figured out that social situations tend to make you want to use and that’s a huge breakthrough. It took me months and months to make the progress you’ve made in a few days!!

Switching from methadone to Suboxone, This thursday !!!!!!

Author: homer

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 am

Briginator, it will be unpleasant to say the least, I have done this a few times, I can help u do it in the least painful way, pm me if u want, il help you mate

Regardless, stock up on loads of lopermide, you will need it. Ii would also advise u get down to 20 mg meth first and always take your docs advice over anyone else’s

Cheers

Homer Smile

Switching from methadone to Suboxone, This thursday !!!!!!

Author: homer

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 am

Briginator, it will be unpleasant to say the least, I have done this a few times, I can help u do it in the least painful way, pm me if u want, il help you mate

Regardless, stock up on loads of lopermide, you will need it. Ii would also advise u get down to 20 mg meth first and always take your docs advice over anyone else’s

Cheers

Homer Smile

Stupid doctor/need advice

Author: Romeo

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:33 am

Hmmm, it’s really hard to figure out what his intentions are. From what you said in your first post, about the plan has always been to taper down slow and steady and when you’re ready, you’ll jump off…..that makes me think your doctor is just pushing you? He may have no real intentions of starting you on Naltrexone yet? It’s really hard to say, though.

He may be dead serious about putting you on Naltrexone because he believe that’s the best course of action for you? Again, it’s very hard to say.

What you have to do is convince him that getting off of Suboxone is not the best course of action for you. I would talk to him about the progress you’ve made, but I’d also mention that you’re just not ready for the jump yet. If he insists on getting you off of Suboxone, I would plead with him to let you continue lowering your dose because jumping from anywhere near where you are isn’t gonna be pretty. Ideally, you should taper well below 1mg. Getting well under 1mg before you jump will minimize your wd greatly. Honestly, if I were you, I’d shoot for getting to .25mg. We’ve had several people jump from around .25mg and their wd has been very mild.

I don’t know how you get your doctor to understand that 6mg or anything near that dose is too high to jump off of. If you tell him you heard it on the internet, he’ll just scoff at you.

You could try to look up some of Dr. J’s articles about tapering, print them out and maybe your doctor would be willing to read what another doctor has wrote?