Your Opion- What’s the harder detox- Suboxone or Heroin?

Author: jerkstore_cowboy

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:56 am

Suboxone was the worst withdrawal I have ever gone through. So much worse than heroin withdrawal. I was in the detox unit for 10 days and was still sick as a dog when I got out.

Tomorrow I will have been sober for 1 year.

Suboxone was a nightmare for me far worse than the Heroin that led me to take it in the first place. I appreciate the help and support I got from this forum and I’m not trying to diss anyone who is being helped by subs. I’m only speaking of my own experience and I’m much, much happier being off that horrible stuff.

suboxone for pain and depression

Author: funnyfarm37

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:14 pm

I am a 37 year old female new here. This started out with a minor fall from a horse a year ago. I severely injured my neck and re injured an old pelvic fracture. I had surgery on my neck in November That unfortunately does not seem to have been completely successful. I have never not work a day in my life and here I am almost 1 year without working. After I had the next surgery I had already been on percoset at 210 milligram tablets 3 * a day. This is a lot for me as in the past when I had migraines or pain syrup I would only take 1 or 2 regular strength vicodin . I do have to admit that I have dabbled and abused drug in my opinion off and on throughout the years. Abuse to me means that I would get a prescription for 30 every 6 months and blow through them with in 10 Days. However when I was out I will never went looking for more. When I started working as an emergency room nurse about 3 years ago I did start drinking more and more. I drink everyday 1 to 2 Drinks sometimes up to 5 when I was not working. After my surgery I decided I did not need the percocet. Anymore and taper down quickly and just quit. I went into a panic attack which I have never had. My family brought me to the emergency room Who gave me more percoset and said I should not just stop taking it. Knowing now that I was probably in withdrawal I didn’t want it at all. So I talk to my doctor who suggested a rehab facility if that indeed is what I want it. I did not want to end up like all of the patients that I took care of an emergency room. I went to the rehab facility and after day 3 the doctors and nurses did not believe I was really in withdrawal and sent me home. I was so depressed I did not leave my room for Hey week and I was prescribed an anti depressant. At Christmas time I was more of a mess than I was before shaking unable to navigate stairs. No sleep for 4 days straight and unable to eat. And this was 2 weeks after my last percoset. On Christmas I looked as if I was about to die so my family brought me into the ER where I work. On Christmas day with all of my coworkers I was confused unable to identify people and Very dehydrated I had to have an IV in my neck. It ended up that I had serotonin syndrome the whole time. They wanted to keep me but I beg to go home as my children were waiting it was Christmas. I was prescribed a benzo diazo teens and sent home with specific instructions for watching my vitals as a ringtone in syndrome can be fatal. I was referred to a psychiatrist to specializes in This type of thing He said I had to date on the benzo diazo pains but I had to switch over to valium at a high dose and taper down. He Restarted me on a different antidepressant at a very low dose. Since then we have been through several anti depressants with no luck I now have a major depressive disorder and severe anxiety and panic attack. They decided the physicians that I was having a reaction to the pain. I admit I do have severe pain but I was freaked out to treat it. All of the narcotics make me second unable to even get out of bed and God for bed I go through what I went through the first time. My family doctor finally decided he would like to try a low dose of sub you text to see if it helps with my pain and possibly take care of some of the depressive episodes. I grilled him on this medication as I had not heard of it and asked if I would go through withdrawals when I stopped taking it. He said at this logos which is 1 to 2 milligrams a day I would probably not feel a thing When I stop taking it. Now I have been on it for 2 months and find I cannot get out of bed without taking a dose . I am now even more depressed because I feel like a junkie….Especially when I go get the prescription filled. It has improved my depression but only when I take it I wake up every morning with a headache and severely depressed. My pain has come down a couple of notches but is not completely controlled and I have no illusions that it ever will b. Also the value my have been on since December and I got down to 4 milligrams and had a severe panic attack and my doctor Said I could not take less than 10 milligrams a night. I kept pleading with him to taper down on that medication. Because I become so it pressed and stuck in my room and unable to eat when trying to taper off either this a box own or the value I have been told that I am not allowed to mess with any of them. I am supposed to not be a nurse and learn to be a patient. I am at my breaking point as it has been 1 year Since I have work and nursing with my life. My pain is bad I cannot do any form of work at this time and my position will not release me to perform any work. My psychiatrist says that I am mentally unstable and unable to perform any work. This is awful for me as I was an emergency room nurse I was the call most and coolest nurse on staff. I worked in a level 2 trauma center. I really don’t want to be stuck on these medications but I find when I try to quit the sub box own I go nuts. I know it is a very low dose too low or is there something wrong with me I do not go a day without breaking down in tears. but I swear I am severely affected by it when I tried to skip a dose or taper off. Last time I was suicidal and I was only taking .5 a day. I think this is why they will not let me go down on the value. To make matters worse I am completely aware that being on a benzo for this long Is going to be nothing but trouble when I taper. Is My suboxone. dose Not correct.

Scared… Preg and cant get off subutex

Author: kat7880

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:42 pm

Hi everyone. I’m new here, very new. I’m lucky I found this site. It has made me feel somewhat better but I am still very nervous about D-day. I guess I need to start from the beginning for this to make sense… My husband and I had been addicted to heroin and dilaudid for several years. Last year I found out I was pregnant with my second daughter while I was in rehab getting help and was too scared of rejection and having my baby taken away to find a sub dr for myself so I found one for my husband and took half his rx the last month of my pregnancy & thru delivery (about 12mg a day). I never told my ob because I was taking it without an rx and was afraid of having her taken away. All the girls in rehab scared me to death of this. They told me horror stories and most of them were trying to get their babies back themselves. Well I delivered a beautiful and perfectly healthy baby girl one month after getting off the H and on the subs. Absolutely NO signs of NAS. The nurses even commented that she was the best baby in the nursery. Well a year later we decided that it has been such a wonderful experience having her that we wanted to give her a younger sister so now Im pregnant again. I got my own sub doctor shortly after my 1 yr old was born and have been prescribed subutex since I got pregnant. Well my prescribing doctor never told me the risks of having a baby on subutex so I guess I was kinda ignorant to it causing all this NAS stuff. And since my other baby came out fine I just didn’t know. Well Now Im 3 weeks away from my due date and once again have not told my ob that I am on subutex. I know some of you will strongly disagree with my decision but I have heard so many stories about how the nursing staff, just by knowing your on the meds, will make up symptoms or make a huge deal out of every spit up and burp, then pump your baby full of methadone or worse, morphine, which could make her very ill after being on subs! Well, now to my biggest worry– I know my last baby was fine, but I had only been on subs for one month when I had her…. Now Ive been on it for the whole pregnancy. I started out on 24 mg’s and have backed myself down to 8 mgs a day but I cant seem to get lower than that. I tried jumping from 16 to 4 and just got very lethargic and exhausted so I bumped back to 8mg which I have stayed on now for 2 weeks. I just dont want my baby to be in pain or have NAS. She is so little and innocent and doesn’t deserve that. I wish to God I had just gotten off it. And that was my plan for this week until I read that one cant come off it in the 3rd trimester without hurting the baby. I don’t know what to do. Should I go through the w/ds and just get off or keep lowering myself down even though it makes me sick? How can I keep her from going thru w/d’s, and will she even have w/d’s? And what if she does, what do I tell my Dr? I just dont know if anything is for sure right now…. Please some one ease my mind…

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Where to go from here

Author: Ryan.is.Tryin

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:26 am

Totally agree with thee above. It is pricey but worth it. 3 months down the road, you’ll take your meds daily and not even think about drug use. It will be a thing of the past if you decide for it to be that way. And sub does have some indication for helping with depression.

Wish you well,

Ryan

Where to go from here

Author: Ryan.is.Tryin

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:26 am

Totally agree with thee above. It is pricey but worth it. 3 months down the road, you’ll take your meds daily and not even think about drug use. It will be a thing of the past if you decide for it to be that way. And sub does have some indication for helping with depression.

Wish you well,

Ryan