Author: Mebebubblez

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:51 pm

Wow I am sorry to hear about all of that. I had a miscarriage last year while on suboxone, 2 months into my pregnancy. Now I am 25 weeks pregnant and my baby is ok as of now. My doctors are all very supportive and understanding of my subutex usage while pregnant. Let me say that your doctor who did the d and c is a complete idiot because it is wayyyyy better that you stay on bupe while pregnant so you don’t cause any stress on your unborn child. You also need to stay on it so your child doesn’t go into withdrawal in utero and cause you to miscarry. If you stop taking sub while pregnant, you are also increasing the risk of using again as well.

Author: Mebebubblez

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:51 pm

Wow I am sorry to hear about all of that. I had a miscarriage last year while on suboxone, 2 months into my pregnancy. Now I am 25 weeks pregnant and my baby is ok as of now. My doctors are all very supportive and understanding of my subutex usage while pregnant. Let me say that your doctor who did the d and c is a complete idiot because it is wayyyyy better that you stay on bupe while pregnant so you don’t cause any stress on your unborn child. You also need to stay on it so your child doesn’t go into withdrawal in utero and cause you to miscarry. If you stop taking sub while pregnant, you are also increasing the risk of using again as well.

Author: birdcatcher

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:48 am

immodium should be changed to tagamet

Author: birdcatcher

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:48 am

immodium should be changed to tagamet

Author: chaimeragiest

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:57 am

First off it’s obvious i got a little internal battle with this drug. But i’d like to first off say thanks a lot to subdoc for responding whether or not he likes anything i am saying is beyond the point. I got a fair amount of respect for him within the last few days considering he is tackling all the bitches, gripes, and compliants i’ve had since the get go of my "treatment" Three damn doctors would not give me the time of day or even attempt to tackle any of what i am saying. So again, i’ve watched a few of your videos and i do commend you for being what i thought going into this thing should have been like from the start. Sadly, you need to be rattling your comrades to there senses. Seriously. If you take nothing else from my negativity or however im being perceived. Please do me that favor?

Teejay i never tried herion. I’ve done methadone, fentanyl, hydromorphone, opana, morphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone. Ya know all the pill junk. But mainly i was scripted 90mg oxycodone. I turned that after 4 months to running low and taking upwards to 200-300mg at my lowest. I was using to stay from w/d. But when i first went and got hook up on this suboxone stuff. This is one thing i have never tried as it wasn’t big in my part of florida yet. Ever since all these sub clinics opened to counter the "pain clinics" which is where i was scripted the oxy. Suboxone now goes street value the same as a oxy ir 30. It’s freaking insane. It’s like watching florida where i’ve grown up. Sprout pain clinics overnight. and then there was this big oxy epidemic going on. Know after a few years of letting everyone ruin themselves on this crap. Suboxone clinics/docs start popping up to counteract the pill mill clinics. I just don’t see a damn difference watching this unfold. And in retrospect me going to the pain clinic put me where i am now. NOW, i’m saddened by the fact that this just seems like more of the same crap. Only difference is i don’t get sick as fast as i did with oxy.

Basically I FEEL as though it is a cop out. My first dose i know this stuff was bad business. Aside from the horrible experience of obtaining this drug. Dosing it hit me harder and longer then oxycodone hit me in a long time. I knew this stuff was trouble. BIG TROUBLE. Here i am taking it still. I’m not getting as buzzed off it as i was. But still. This stuff is powerful. And i know im basically still not making progress in regards to stopping being on opiates. I feel as though i am dug way deeper then i was before. and it bothers me every time i take some.

110mg of methadone? Ouch! And what you said about stronger cravings to use and it created serious changes in your brain. That is a awesome way to sum up my worst fears of taking this daily. : ‘ (

"that is why many countries call it Opioid Replacement Therapy (ORT) – or Substitution Pharmacotherapy. But considering it a cop out is just a poor indictment on yourself ain’t it? Oh sorry, you’re not using Suboxone as an addiction treatment. You’re not kidding yourself with that game. You’re using it to get high!! If you weren’t, you woulda asked your doctor for a dose reduction by now."

Opiate replacement therapy…. That right there sums up the cop out attitude im showing. and yes it is a poor indictment on me and i admit it hurts me on a daily basis to think about it. You may or may not understand it if your in the blissfull land of supposed recovery when were really not differing at all. it’s not abuse. It’s a tool for recovery.. Blah blah blah. Get the idea? I’m prescribed way more to begin with. So eh. i though abusing it is taking more or diverting your stuff? I’ve diverted a few extras when i wasn’t on the patient assistance program to cover the costs of doctors appt. Figured he is used to taking dirty money anyway. You get the idea. Forget dependent or addicted. I’m hooked on this crap. I actually don’t misuse it in anyway. i take it the right way and all. Unless you count using cotton balls, high proof alcohol, and suboxone as abuse..?

Author: chaimeragiest

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:57 am

First off it’s obvious i got a little internal battle with this drug. But i’d like to first off say thanks a lot to subdoc for responding whether or not he likes anything i am saying is beyond the point. I got a fair amount of respect for him within the last few days considering he is tackling all the bitches, gripes, and compliants i’ve had since the get go of my "treatment" Three damn doctors would not give me the time of day or even attempt to tackle any of what i am saying. So again, i’ve watched a few of your videos and i do commend you for being what i thought going into this thing should have been like from the start. Sadly, you need to be rattling your comrades to there senses. Seriously. If you take nothing else from my negativity or however im being perceived. Please do me that favor?

Teejay i never tried herion. I’ve done methadone, fentanyl, hydromorphone, opana, morphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone. Ya know all the pill junk. But mainly i was scripted 90mg oxycodone. I turned that after 4 months to running low and taking upwards to 200-300mg at my lowest. I was using to stay from w/d. But when i first went and got hook up on this suboxone stuff. This is one thing i have never tried as it wasn’t big in my part of florida yet. Ever since all these sub clinics opened to counter the "pain clinics" which is where i was scripted the oxy. Suboxone now goes street value the same as a oxy ir 30. It’s freaking insane. It’s like watching florida where i’ve grown up. Sprout pain clinics overnight. and then there was this big oxy epidemic going on. Know after a few years of letting everyone ruin themselves on this crap. Suboxone clinics/docs start popping up to counteract the pill mill clinics. I just don’t see a damn difference watching this unfold. And in retrospect me going to the pain clinic put me where i am now. NOW, i’m saddened by the fact that this just seems like more of the same crap. Only difference is i don’t get sick as fast as i did with oxy.

Basically I FEEL as though it is a cop out. My first dose i know this stuff was bad business. Aside from the horrible experience of obtaining this drug. Dosing it hit me harder and longer then oxycodone hit me in a long time. I knew this stuff was trouble. BIG TROUBLE. Here i am taking it still. I’m not getting as buzzed off it as i was. But still. This stuff is powerful. And i know im basically still not making progress in regards to stopping being on opiates. I feel as though i am dug way deeper then i was before. and it bothers me every time i take some.

110mg of methadone? Ouch! And what you said about stronger cravings to use and it created serious changes in your brain. That is a awesome way to sum up my worst fears of taking this daily. : ‘ (

"that is why many countries call it Opioid Replacement Therapy (ORT) – or Substitution Pharmacotherapy. But considering it a cop out is just a poor indictment on yourself ain’t it? Oh sorry, you’re not using Suboxone as an addiction treatment. You’re not kidding yourself with that game. You’re using it to get high!! If you weren’t, you woulda asked your doctor for a dose reduction by now."

Opiate replacement therapy…. That right there sums up the cop out attitude im showing. and yes it is a poor indictment on me and i admit it hurts me on a daily basis to think about it. You may or may not understand it if your in the blissfull land of supposed recovery when were really not differing at all. it’s not abuse. It’s a tool for recovery.. Blah blah blah. Get the idea? I’m prescribed way more to begin with. So eh. i though abusing it is taking more or diverting your stuff? I’ve diverted a few extras when i wasn’t on the patient assistance program to cover the costs of doctors appt. Figured he is used to taking dirty money anyway. You get the idea. Forget dependent or addicted. I’m hooked on this crap. I actually don’t misuse it in anyway. i take it the right way and all. Unless you count using cotton balls, high proof alcohol, and suboxone as abuse..?

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:26 am

I don’t have any magic "fix it all" words for ya, bro….

But, it’s gonna be a whole new year, in about a day and a half……

Make it YOUR new fresh start, clean slate, too.

As I always say,,,, there’s NOTHING you can do, now, after the fact, so don’t beat yourself up, that never
gets us anywhere good, except back in the bag, yet again…..

I DO HOPE you can learn SOMETHING from the slip though, some way turn it into more tools
against your addiction………….
you are super inteligent, you must know that on some level? Please try and figure out what happened, what took
you to "your dark place"

Hang in there……….. I’m in your corner, I’m rootin’ for YOU

happy new years

Oh and JUST for the "record"

TEEJAY wrote—
I’m starting to think alcohol is NOT good for my mood, even in moderation.

^^^^^I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree, with this statement, here…^^^^^^^

Be Careful Friend

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:26 am

I don’t have any magic "fix it all" words for ya, bro….

But, it’s gonna be a whole new year, in about a day and a half……

Make it YOUR new fresh start, clean slate, too.

As I always say,,,, there’s NOTHING you can do, now, after the fact, so don’t beat yourself up, that never
gets us anywhere good, except back in the bag, yet again…..

I DO HOPE you can learn SOMETHING from the slip though, some way turn it into more tools
against your addiction………….
you are super inteligent, you must know that on some level? Please try and figure out what happened, what took
you to "your dark place"

Hang in there……….. I’m in your corner, I’m rootin’ for YOU

happy new years

Oh and JUST for the "record"

TEEJAY wrote—
I’m starting to think alcohol is NOT good for my mood, even in moderation.

^^^^^I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree, with this statement, here…^^^^^^^

Be Careful Friend

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:44 am

Hey there……..

It IS really hard for "non addicts" to understand anything we are going thru…. but WE, here, well, the vast majority
of us here, understand what your going through….

Living without drugs, once you’ve been ON them for any amount of time is, well it’s really shitty sometimes.

My "vote" here, is STILL the same as what I wrote above, , ,
"COULDA BEEN WORSE"
AT LEAST you didn’t go get a bag, or a handful of pills and do that.
I don’t know exactly what your "choice" was,,,, when I’ve been asked what my drug of choice was, I usually say,
"I have to pick ONE??"

back on topic,
it coulda been worse,

I hope you and your girl can work things out. . . . Have you asked her, or thought about going to counseling together???

Honestly, I think counseling is the ONLY reason my husband has been able to let go of all the crap I put our family through,
and be SUPPORTIVE of me, now.
Something about that non-biast "proffesional" opinion really helped him SEE I’m not the only, or even the worst addict
out there…….. Hmmmmmm what a concept, eh?

and if it doesn’t work out, well I guess that’s not where your sopposed to be…

There’s lots of counseling, where the actual doctor will "negotiate" fees….. we have no insurance, but maybe it’s the shitty economy or something, we’ve found MORE than one, who was willing to work for cash, for less than a THIRD what they would bill insurance.
My step brother, did the same thing, on the East Coast, so I know it isn’t just in my area or something.

Maybe it’s worth a shot??? What do you have to lose??

AND,,,,, maybe by asking her, to go with you, it will REALLY SHOW you want to get better, you care enough
to put that much effort forward, blah blah blah
you know all the BS us women like to hear……

That’s all I got
I hope things turn around for you

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:44 am

Hey there……..

It IS really hard for "non addicts" to understand anything we are going thru…. but WE, here, well, the vast majority
of us here, understand what your going through….

Living without drugs, once you’ve been ON them for any amount of time is, well it’s really shitty sometimes.

My "vote" here, is STILL the same as what I wrote above, , ,
"COULDA BEEN WORSE"
AT LEAST you didn’t go get a bag, or a handful of pills and do that.
I don’t know exactly what your "choice" was,,,, when I’ve been asked what my drug of choice was, I usually say,
"I have to pick ONE??"

back on topic,
it coulda been worse,

I hope you and your girl can work things out. . . . Have you asked her, or thought about going to counseling together???

Honestly, I think counseling is the ONLY reason my husband has been able to let go of all the crap I put our family through,
and be SUPPORTIVE of me, now.
Something about that non-biast "proffesional" opinion really helped him SEE I’m not the only, or even the worst addict
out there…….. Hmmmmmm what a concept, eh?

and if it doesn’t work out, well I guess that’s not where your sopposed to be…

There’s lots of counseling, where the actual doctor will "negotiate" fees….. we have no insurance, but maybe it’s the shitty economy or something, we’ve found MORE than one, who was willing to work for cash, for less than a THIRD what they would bill insurance.
My step brother, did the same thing, on the East Coast, so I know it isn’t just in my area or something.

Maybe it’s worth a shot??? What do you have to lose??

AND,,,,, maybe by asking her, to go with you, it will REALLY SHOW you want to get better, you care enough
to put that much effort forward, blah blah blah
you know all the BS us women like to hear……

That’s all I got
I hope things turn around for you