Author: Romeo

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:32 pm

I remember my first vacation after getting off of Suboxone too, it was really nice to not have to stress over my meds. I found myself being a lot more active than I used to be too. We swam in the ocean several times a day, swam in the pool several times a day, went out shopping (yuck!), went go-kart racing, stayed out late. One of the best vacations we’ve been on!

I’m glad things are working out so nicely for you, you’ve worked hard for it.

Author: Romeo

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:32 pm

I remember my first vacation after getting off of Suboxone too, it was really nice to not have to stress over my meds. I found myself being a lot more active than I used to be too. We swam in the ocean several times a day, swam in the pool several times a day, went out shopping (yuck!), went go-kart racing, stayed out late. One of the best vacations we’ve been on!

I’m glad things are working out so nicely for you, you’ve worked hard for it.

Author: grindcor3jacky

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:31 pm

Hatmaker: I never took more than 8mgs at a time. I started in suboxone about 6 months ago and 1 month ago I jumped to 4mgs a day and then I jumped off completly 48 hours ago. I considered finding a doctor, however i have no insurance. and well Im actually not feeling half bad. I know that there is more to come, but I have so much to keep me busy. Ive been exercising and riding my bike to work everyday and when I do that I feel great. This may also be a little weird but my sex drive has sky rocketted I dont know if thats b.c my brain is craving endorphins, or if my brain is looking for a new vice. My fiancee likes it though lolol.

StephenT: Again I did consider going to a doctor, but I just want to be done. I dont want to touch a pill EVER again, and Im afraid if I get subs…Im not gunna stop…It may only be 48hours but I feel great…which is scary…but Im lovin it. Oh and Grindcore Jacky is a nickname cuz Im a certified Hardcore Chick. lol Thanks for the envy!!

Taurus: Metal is great, its also a good endorphin relaser to go to shows n just jump around and have fun ya know. I got a weeks worth of sub pills after the patch, which was 31/2 8mg pills. Im taking Serequel right now for insomnia and anxiety.

As I said b4 as of right now my physical wds are not bad, my back hurts but thats something ive got to get used to. ITs the emotional wds that are kicking my ASS! I hate beign depressed….and i cry and then im mad ans then I cry and ugh…FML

Author: grindcor3jacky

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:31 pm

Hatmaker: I never took more than 8mgs at a time. I started in suboxone about 6 months ago and 1 month ago I jumped to 4mgs a day and then I jumped off completly 48 hours ago. I considered finding a doctor, however i have no insurance. and well Im actually not feeling half bad. I know that there is more to come, but I have so much to keep me busy. Ive been exercising and riding my bike to work everyday and when I do that I feel great. This may also be a little weird but my sex drive has sky rocketted I dont know if thats b.c my brain is craving endorphins, or if my brain is looking for a new vice. My fiancee likes it though lolol.

StephenT: Again I did consider going to a doctor, but I just want to be done. I dont want to touch a pill EVER again, and Im afraid if I get subs…Im not gunna stop…It may only be 48hours but I feel great…which is scary…but Im lovin it. Oh and Grindcore Jacky is a nickname cuz Im a certified Hardcore Chick. lol Thanks for the envy!!

Taurus: Metal is great, its also a good endorphin relaser to go to shows n just jump around and have fun ya know. I got a weeks worth of sub pills after the patch, which was 31/2 8mg pills. Im taking Serequel right now for insomnia and anxiety.

As I said b4 as of right now my physical wds are not bad, my back hurts but thats something ive got to get used to. ITs the emotional wds that are kicking my ASS! I hate beign depressed….and i cry and then im mad ans then I cry and ugh…FML

Author: SometimeIdiot

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:34 pm

Link

Hi all,

Music has always been an important part of my life. It can cover the full spectrum of human emotions, and like humans, it has the capacity to inspire and heal, as well as to hurt and do damage. It can be loving, or it can be hateful. Etc. I’ve been putting together playlists of music to help inspire me as I begin my journey of sobriety, to listen to as I work and relax. I’m not a big Sheryl Crow fan, but I’ve found the lyrics to this song to be very relevant to me at this stage in my life.

Music lyrics are so personal. I’ve never found the lyrics of any song to fit perfectly with me, my life situation, mood, etc. That’s why I’ve been writing my own music and lyrics lately. But some songs and lyrics have come really close to capturing how I’m feeling or what I’m experiencing. The lyrics to “I Shall Believe� probably only makes 100% sense to the person who wrote them. It’s obviously a deeply personal song. But when I shift the orientation of the lyrics and think of certain phrases therein as metaphors for my situation, then this song makes perfect sense to me and my current experience.

For me, this song is about the junkie in a person speaking to the “normalâ€� person that junkie once was before being brought down by addiction. It’s a cry for help to one’s former self. It’s a hearfelt appeal from the junkie for self-forgiveness. “Lay your hands over meâ€� and “No one heals me like you and you hold the keyâ€� is a recognition that healing must come from within, that no motivation to change is stronger or more compelling than the desire to change for one’s own sake. “That I only come home … When I’m so all aloneâ€� is an allusion to those all-to-fleeting, brief moments during the depths of addiction when the addict understands what he/she must do to get out of addiction (but of course is too weak, deluded, etc., to actually take proper action). “That not everything is gonna be the way you think it ought to beâ€� is actually one of those rare instances where the junkie’s lucidity actually trumps the insight of the “normalâ€� former person. The junkie is telling his/her old self that not all things can be controlled in life, that he/she must learn to accept such things and not turn to drugs to change them or cope with them. "Open the door and show me your face tonight" is the addict’s expression of hope to see a glimpse of what a better life can be.

Maybe this song will have some meaning and inspiration to you. It’s a very sad song, but it’s also a song of hope – I Shall Believe.

Namaste,

SI

I Shall Believe

Come to me now
And lay your hands over me
Even if it’s a lie
Say it will be alright
And I shall believe
I’m broken in two
And I know you’re on to me
That I only come home
When I’m so all alone
But I do believe

That not everything is gonna be the way
You think it ought to be
It seems like every time I try to make it right
It all comes down on me
Please say honestly you won’t give up on me
And I shall believe
And I shall believe

Open the door
And show me your face tonight
I know it’s true
No one heals me like you
And you hold the key

Never again
would I turn away from you
I’m so heavy tonight
But your love is alright
And I do believe

That not everything is gonna be the way
You think it ought to be
It seems like every time I try to make it right
It all comes down on me
Please say honestly
You won’t give up on me
And I shall believe
I shall believe
And I shall believe.

Author: SometimeIdiot

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:34 pm

Link

Hi all,

Music has always been an important part of my life. It can cover the full spectrum of human emotions, and like humans, it has the capacity to inspire and heal, as well as to hurt and do damage. It can be loving, or it can be hateful. Etc. I’ve been putting together playlists of music to help inspire me as I begin my journey of sobriety, to listen to as I work and relax. I’m not a big Sheryl Crow fan, but I’ve found the lyrics to this song to be very relevant to me at this stage in my life.

Music lyrics are so personal. I’ve never found the lyrics of any song to fit perfectly with me, my life situation, mood, etc. That’s why I’ve been writing my own music and lyrics lately. But some songs and lyrics have come really close to capturing how I’m feeling or what I’m experiencing. The lyrics to “I Shall Believe� probably only makes 100% sense to the person who wrote them. It’s obviously a deeply personal song. But when I shift the orientation of the lyrics and think of certain phrases therein as metaphors for my situation, then this song makes perfect sense to me and my current experience.

For me, this song is about the junkie in a person speaking to the “normalâ€� person that junkie once was before being brought down by addiction. It’s a cry for help to one’s former self. It’s a hearfelt appeal from the junkie for self-forgiveness. “Lay your hands over meâ€� and “No one heals me like you and you hold the keyâ€� is a recognition that healing must come from within, that no motivation to change is stronger or more compelling than the desire to change for one’s own sake. “That I only come home … When I’m so all aloneâ€� is an allusion to those all-to-fleeting, brief moments during the depths of addiction when the addict understands what he/she must do to get out of addiction (but of course is too weak, deluded, etc., to actually take proper action). “That not everything is gonna be the way you think it ought to beâ€� is actually one of those rare instances where the junkie’s lucidity actually trumps the insight of the “normalâ€� former person. The junkie is telling his/her old self that not all things can be controlled in life, that he/she must learn to accept such things and not turn to drugs to change them or cope with them. "Open the door and show me your face tonight" is the addict’s expression of hope to see a glimpse of what a better life can be.

Maybe this song will have some meaning and inspiration to you. It’s a very sad song, but it’s also a song of hope – I Shall Believe.

Namaste,

SI

I Shall Believe

Come to me now
And lay your hands over me
Even if it’s a lie
Say it will be alright
And I shall believe
I’m broken in two
And I know you’re on to me
That I only come home
When I’m so all alone
But I do believe

That not everything is gonna be the way
You think it ought to be
It seems like every time I try to make it right
It all comes down on me
Please say honestly you won’t give up on me
And I shall believe
And I shall believe

Open the door
And show me your face tonight
I know it’s true
No one heals me like you
And you hold the key

Never again
would I turn away from you
I’m so heavy tonight
But your love is alright
And I do believe

That not everything is gonna be the way
You think it ought to be
It seems like every time I try to make it right
It all comes down on me
Please say honestly
You won’t give up on me
And I shall believe
I shall believe
And I shall believe.

Author: jonathanm1978

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:48 pm

In response to your query about other sites, I will give you the simplest and most absolute answer that I can…and this is from past experience with being admin on sites that have encountered this…

When you allow members to discuss other forums on a site, there is something that can come up that is commonly referred to as "site wars"…where members of one site join another site and do nothing but stir trouble. Then, members of THAT site join the attacking site and do the same. And if it gets technical enough, then they get "friend" in the hacking community to start using DDoS attacks to take the site down, and it can get pretty ugly..to the point of having site owners that contact law enforcement. I’ve seen this happen, and it’s always just easier to say "no discussing other sites, positive or negative."

That way there’s nothing that a member from the site that’s been mentioned can go back and say "well they are talking about us over there"….and things get twisted from what’s really been said. All of this is just easily avoided by us all remembering to not discuss other forums.

Author: jonathanm1978

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:48 pm

In response to your query about other sites, I will give you the simplest and most absolute answer that I can…and this is from past experience with being admin on sites that have encountered this…

When you allow members to discuss other forums on a site, there is something that can come up that is commonly referred to as "site wars"…where members of one site join another site and do nothing but stir trouble. Then, members of THAT site join the attacking site and do the same. And if it gets technical enough, then they get "friend" in the hacking community to start using DDoS attacks to take the site down, and it can get pretty ugly..to the point of having site owners that contact law enforcement. I’ve seen this happen, and it’s always just easier to say "no discussing other sites, positive or negative."

That way there’s nothing that a member from the site that’s been mentioned can go back and say "well they are talking about us over there"….and things get twisted from what’s really been said. All of this is just easily avoided by us all remembering to not discuss other forums.

Author: tattoo tommy

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:10 am

I only read your first post so if i repeat what someone already said im sorry.,,But im gonna be following your thread cause I too have been on sub for yrs,,8 yrs come july and im wonderin about it bein harder to do after bein on it so long.
the only things i can think of to help youve probably already heard,,but immodium is good and its over the counter,,buy the generic,,its cheaper and works the same,,i tried it before thinkin it wouldnt help and i was surprised at how much it did help,,I think i took 6 pills but you cant take it long or your body becomes dependant on em,,plus theres that blood pressure med ,,damn , cant remember the name right now but my wife got some once from her doctor for wd’s and i tried them and they really calmed me down,,and theres also nuerotin,,ive been on that for a long time and its something you can become dependent on too, but it calms you down and they are using it in some detox places.,,but i think the hardest thing when detoxing is forcing yourself to get up and out and doin something,,even if its just a walk around the block,,I have a punching bag,,and its something i like to do so gettin exercise isnt as hard.
anyway,,i really wish you luck,,and dont let the mental shit keep ya down,,be positive,,and be LOUD about it,,say,,YEA,, FUCK YOU SUB! AND EVERY OTHER DRUG!,CAUSE IM GONNA WHIP YER ASS!,,,lol
Tattoo Tommy

Author: tattoo tommy

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41 am

Installin a door ??..I just wanted to give ya high five cause installin a door can be very frustrating and it takes skill to get it right!!,,I guess anytime you feel bad you could go next door and kick in your nieghbors doort!,,THEN INSTALL A NEW ONE!