Author: finallyachance
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm
That’s really inspiring and you know what sometimes stories like that help more than the harsh reality. I am so happy to hear that drugs only robbed you for a while and you and she won in the end. And congrats on the new baby. I am so happy in fact I am going to close my computer now and go to bed. A happily ever after moment. Thanks.
Author: Rich-PMS
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:40 pm
Went in for my 2nd visit today, and got another weeks supply of subs. Visit went well. He said it should start getting easier to sleep now that my body is adjusted to the drug. Also recommended drinking prune juice to help with bowel movements. Also told me to decide by my next visit (next Tuesday) if I want to taper off, or stay on maintenance.
I’m pretty sure Id like to stay on it. I feel like I’d slip back fairly easily, and I have ZERO cravings on suboxone. And I like KNOWING if I were to take any oxys I wouldn’t even get high. Plus, I feel absolutely great on subs. Im very relaxed, full of energy, motivated, happy, ect.
I’m still on 8mg 2X a day, but still feel I need a 4mg dose between my am/pm dose. He said that well discuss it on my next visit.
Author: sweet16
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:12 pm
Well, I feel like I am JUST begining to stabelize on my .25mg dose. I will stay here for a while. I think I will heed Taper57’s advise and s l o w it down a bit. I am tired of feeling tired and my friggen back has been killing me. I have not been doing my walks or yoga, (still extremely active with life, work, kids and all) and this may be why I am not experiencing a "speedy recovery" with these past few drops. I know I have been really pushing myself and I am OK with where I am at. I have been having NOT perfect sleep but again I am down on my xanax dose too. I DO wanna be off soon however. I am going on a cruise to Mexico Cinco De Mayo weekend and I DO NOT want to be worried about my sub. or my xannys either. I do not want to be worried about my sub even now, but I am where I am. Well I just wanted to update. No relapse no contact w/ the neighbor, no BS, just moving forward and feeling pretty good aside all the previously mentioned stuff. I wonder if being wishy washy is a symptom of tapering?///
Author: finallyachance
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:42 pm
I might believe you’re not an addict if you were taking sub for pain but……after reading the post non addicts just don’t plan out relapses and well lets face it….you are planning to use to feel the high or get high and non addicts don’t think about pain pills making them feel high (as a positive thing) and they want to do them to feel high. They just don’t think like we do. Ya might want to since you’re being honest and all be 100 percent honest and realize this.
Nothing to shame about an addict wanting to use or feel high or be high, but you could avoid all that and just go get your dosage increased etc…to maybe alleviate some of these cravings maybe your dose isn’t blocking the cravings. Apparently not. But back to the shame thing I can’t tell you how many times I said wow I am bored with sobriety and I just want to feel high again. and I did. Of course I always had to pay some kind of price or consequence in the end but it was fun while it lasted at least for a little while. After 30 years of it well the funs are few and far between. I end up just paying the consequences and had no fun.
Author: johnboy
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:44 pm
oh ya your right". he’s slip sliding away with his doc and the other. 
Author: jonathanm1978
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:20 am
I for one can’t believe the stupidity here..but it just goes to show the ignorance of people about addiction. This is ABSURD, and it shames me to know I live near idiots of this nature and degree (and even worse, IDIOTS WITH POLITICAL POWER).
Read the story..look at the comments from the mayor…and others..
"but we lost the battle against the state…."
At least SOMEONE in the State has some sense, and pushed it forward…morons..i tell you what!!
I’m not sure who that person was that commented below the post on that site…but they seem to be pretty smart!! (the comments section on the video/story)
Author: Breezy_Ann
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:50 am
Hi and welcome! I’m sorry for the suffering you endure, chronic pain is a terrible thing with no simple answers. You could benefit from sub but unfortunately the only way to find out is to give it a try. We have many members here that use sub to treat their chronic pain conditions. Some have had great success and pain control while some have not. If you are currently being treated by a pain management Dr they can prescribe sub for the treatment of pain. A Dr only requires the waiver if prescribing sub for addiction.
If you decide to give sub a try and you are not getting the pain control you require you could always go back on your current pain meds. Another option is methadone (which can also be prescribed for pain by your Dr). We have a member here that switched to methadone because sub was not adequately treating his pain and is doing great on methadone.
If there are any more specific questions you have about either don’t hesitate to ask. We will help you to the best of our ability.
Author: stephent
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:44 pm
| tearj3rker wrote: | ||
Nitrous has a v. different action to opioid drugs. It may affect opioid receptors, but that’d be just a small part of what it does. I used a lot of bulbs as a teen, and it’s surprisingly strong. I’d do a double shot, and experience the world and me dissolve to nothing for what felt days or months … When only 30 seconds had passed. The only thing I could compare it to would be … ketamine maybe? |
It is a dissociative like Ketamine, PCP, or DXM.
Author: rule62
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:50 pm
Thanks All for the kind words.
Sitting here yesterday thinking about my experience and again am considering calling a malpractice attorney and see if they will at least listen to my story.
Could care less about the money, what I want done is to make sure all doctors, especially surgeons, are up to date on how to treat patients for pain who are on either Suboxone or Methadone. We are all being dealt an injustice. Doctors need to read up on this or take some kind of course so they at least know what the drug is.
At the hospital, most RN’s and helpers never even heard of Sub. How long has this drug been on the market? 6-7 years? And even my Radiation Oncologist had no clue what it was. But at least he said he’ll read up on it and also said he will prescribe me whatever will work for pain.
Breezy, you’ve said a doctor can prescribe Sub for pain w/o that special number? I may need to research this one.
Thanks Again everyone, I’m healing fairly well. Shaving is quite dicey though.
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Author: rule62
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:14 pm
Even though you and I were taking the same 1mg dose, you are splitting it and I didn’t. So to answer your question about when I stopped the Sub; I take my dose at 10am once a day. The next day I started the Hydro. I suppose I could have waited for several hours until some w/d kicked in but why suffer needlessly? Barely felt the first dose but it improved as days went by.
You are way below the ceiling so the w/d’s come on fast. I too would feel minor w/d’s by around 3-4pm if I skipped my morning dose. Only tried that once to see how long it would take.
Warning, warning, warning.….once you get that fuzzy good feeling again you will be tempted to take more than prescribed. That was my downfall. Went a little nutty for 2-3 days and went back on my beloved Sub. For the pain I took two Aleve and those actually work pretty good. Pissed me off that I couldn’t control my meds. But damn I felt good for a few hours.
My next painful journey is radiation treatment. Either my Oncologist or a Pain Clinic will give me pain pills. This time around I will have my wife dole them out. My plan is to go out and buy a small combination safe that she and only she will have the number to. There isn’t a hiding place in or out of the house that I can’t find. Addicts can smell their doc’s. It may sound silly but if anyone has a better idea let me know. Stupid F##king addiction!
After I’m dead, I will leave my brain to science to see just how different an addicts brain works vs a non addict. I’ve seen a TV show that had a CT scan of an addicts brain and a normal one. There is a difference.
Addiction is "Covert Suicide"
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