Author: Trudijane

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:31 pm

Hello,

I tried to have a colonoscopy a few years ago. They gave me fentanyl and versed and I also told the Dr. and prescribing Dr. about it. Both said it should be OK.

However, it was so painful for me that they had to stop in less than a minute. Just couldn’t go on. I’m no sure if this is related to the medications I was given or the procedure itself. Some people can tolerate colonoscopies more than others. A friend of mine did not feel any pain at all.

I guess you’ll find out.

Author: Trudijane

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:31 pm

Hello,

I tried to have a colonoscopy a few years ago. They gave me fentanyl and versed and I also told the Dr. and prescribing Dr. about it. Both said it should be OK.

However, it was so painful for me that they had to stop in less than a minute. Just couldn’t go on. I’m no sure if this is related to the medications I was given or the procedure itself. Some people can tolerate colonoscopies more than others. A friend of mine did not feel any pain at all.

I guess you’ll find out.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:16 pm

Hey kaboose.

Yes, Kratom does bind to mu-opioid receptors. This is what gives it the slight buzz it provides the user.

How much will it affect your short term recovery / PAWS? I personally don’t believe one use of Kratom will wind your recovery back to square one, but at the same time you haven’t done your recovery any favours. In my experience, using once in early recovery can push the clock back on one’s recovery somewhat. You may find over the coming days or couple of weeks that your cravings are more intense than they were at the 3 month mark. However, if you keep it to just that one use, within a couple of weeks you should be back to where you were as there’s no sustained use you gotta recover from.

If you keep using Kratom, or escalate your use back to the stronger narcotics like Oxy / methadone / heroin / bupe (arguable), then you’ll definitely be back at square 1 or worse. So keep moving forward, and find some of your own ways to deal with the inevitable cravings that come with being free of opioids.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:16 pm

Hey kaboose.

Yes, Kratom does bind to mu-opioid receptors. This is what gives it the slight buzz it provides the user.

How much will it affect your short term recovery / PAWS? I personally don’t believe one use of Kratom will wind your recovery back to square one, but at the same time you haven’t done your recovery any favours. In my experience, using once in early recovery can push the clock back on one’s recovery somewhat. You may find over the coming days or couple of weeks that your cravings are more intense than they were at the 3 month mark. However, if you keep it to just that one use, within a couple of weeks you should be back to where you were as there’s no sustained use you gotta recover from.

If you keep using Kratom, or escalate your use back to the stronger narcotics like Oxy / methadone / heroin / bupe (arguable), then you’ll definitely be back at square 1 or worse. So keep moving forward, and find some of your own ways to deal with the inevitable cravings that come with being free of opioids.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:09 am

I’ve been on Naltrexone pills before. It does help with cravings a bit, but only marginally in comparison to Suboxone. The main thing that stops you using on it is the fact that using while on naltrexone is a waste. It’s a very effective blocker, more effective than Suboxone. I know some people who have created their recovery out of a succession of 6 month long naltrexone implants. They just keep getting implant after implant for years.

I recently went to a doctors with someone who wanted to enquire about Vivitrol. He said they hadn’t had much success with it, and that it wore off too quickly for a lot of people. The whole clinic actually has shied away from naltrexone in recent years.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:09 am

I’ve been on Naltrexone pills before. It does help with cravings a bit, but only marginally in comparison to Suboxone. The main thing that stops you using on it is the fact that using while on naltrexone is a waste. It’s a very effective blocker, more effective than Suboxone. I know some people who have created their recovery out of a succession of 6 month long naltrexone implants. They just keep getting implant after implant for years.

I recently went to a doctors with someone who wanted to enquire about Vivitrol. He said they hadn’t had much success with it, and that it wore off too quickly for a lot of people. The whole clinic actually has shied away from naltrexone in recent years.

Author: jonny62

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:03 am

I had an "a-ha" moment way back when i was 16 y/o and experimenting with LSD.
The "a-ha" moment wasn’t about not taking opiates (hadn’t touched ’em then)

As I recall it was about.." allowing me to see past that shell and remind me there is a whole world out there."

That is the best way to describe it.

And I am not advocating the use of Psychedelics either. It is just that you hit on a point (a-ha moment) that I too experienced and changed my outlook in a more positive way for years to come. And that "a-ha moment" took place 34 years ago!

Author: jonny62

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:03 am

I had an "a-ha" moment way back when i was 16 y/o and experimenting with LSD.
The "a-ha" moment wasn’t about not taking opiates (hadn’t touched ’em then)

As I recall it was about.." allowing me to see past that shell and remind me there is a whole world out there."

That is the best way to describe it.

And I am not advocating the use of Psychedelics either. It is just that you hit on a point (a-ha moment) that I too experienced and changed my outlook in a more positive way for years to come. And that "a-ha moment" took place 34 years ago!

Author: Thegreatestislove

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:36 am

Sleep is still hard at times, but not every night. I fall asleep easily, it is staying asleep a full 7-8 hours that I still have some hard nights with. If anything wakes me I have a hard time going back to sleep. My stomach is better, but has it’s moments, I do have my appetite again so that is a plus there. Emotions are still in full swing and I am easily cold, or hot. I still have minor aches and pains. My head feels a little weird at times. I yawn, tear, and sneeze. BUT I am Fighting this demon with all I have got. If I can’t find a real smile, I fake one. If I have a hard moment I Hold on, they pass. All of my wds are the same, but less intense and manageable. Like I said before, I get little breaks here n there. That shows me where I am going and keeps me going there because that is my destination. Tinydancer said on one of her posts, I think her wd timeline. " It’s just a commitment!" That was a very smart statement. It is so true. This is just a commitment. At this point the un-comfortable times are shorter the easier times are getting longer I feel like a bit of a broken record because I have said all of these things already. I just want to be clear, It is day 18 I am still having wds, but I am fighting them and pushing through them rather than letting them control me. I am like GET OFF ME! I don’t have time for ya stupid wds. Then I go outside, or jump on the four-wheeler. Last night Lee and I rented movies and got Chinese food. I didn’t make it through even the first movie before I fell asleep and in reality that is how I was before opiates. If I get still after a long day of pushing through this beast, un-like any other person who works hard all day I am going to fall asleep, it is normal, if I could stay asleep that would be great, but everyone has told me that takes a long time to get right. Knowing what to expect helps you keep going through it because you know eventually It will change for the better. It just takes time. It takes a LOT of determination. I am hanging and pushing through and Fighting. I am taking my LIFE back.

Hope everyone is doing Great! Another day!

Author: Thegreatestislove

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:36 am

Sleep is still hard at times, but not every night. I fall asleep easily, it is staying asleep a full 7-8 hours that I still have some hard nights with. If anything wakes me I have a hard time going back to sleep. My stomach is better, but has it’s moments, I do have my appetite again so that is a plus there. Emotions are still in full swing and I am easily cold, or hot. I still have minor aches and pains. My head feels a little weird at times. I yawn, tear, and sneeze. BUT I am Fighting this demon with all I have got. If I can’t find a real smile, I fake one. If I have a hard moment I Hold on, they pass. All of my wds are the same, but less intense and manageable. Like I said before, I get little breaks here n there. That shows me where I am going and keeps me going there because that is my destination. Tinydancer said on one of her posts, I think her wd timeline. " It’s just a commitment!" That was a very smart statement. It is so true. This is just a commitment. At this point the un-comfortable times are shorter the easier times are getting longer I feel like a bit of a broken record because I have said all of these things already. I just want to be clear, It is day 18 I am still having wds, but I am fighting them and pushing through them rather than letting them control me. I am like GET OFF ME! I don’t have time for ya stupid wds. Then I go outside, or jump on the four-wheeler. Last night Lee and I rented movies and got Chinese food. I didn’t make it through even the first movie before I fell asleep and in reality that is how I was before opiates. If I get still after a long day of pushing through this beast, un-like any other person who works hard all day I am going to fall asleep, it is normal, if I could stay asleep that would be great, but everyone has told me that takes a long time to get right. Knowing what to expect helps you keep going through it because you know eventually It will change for the better. It just takes time. It takes a LOT of determination. I am hanging and pushing through and Fighting. I am taking my LIFE back.

Hope everyone is doing Great! Another day!