Is Suboxone Right For Me? Need Advice.

Author: TwinCitiesHardcore

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:00 pm

DocM made a typo actually as Buprex (probably meant Buprenex) is actually an injectable form of buprenorphine hcl for pain control. BuTrans, on the other hand might be a really good option for you and would be what you would want to mention to your providers. It is a CIII medication as is hydrocodone/lortab/vicodon so any doctor who has a DEA # can prescribe it for pain management. It’s a patch similar to the Duragesic (Fentanyl) transdermal patch only BuTrans actually lasts 7 days. Any Dr can also write you a prescription for Suboxone or Subutex for pain OFF LABEL but it’s rather unlikely. A problem is that you have already been through the process of looking into obtaining suboxone via a maintenance clinic or through Dr’s who prescribe under DATA 2000, so if your primary Dr’s/psychiatrists who you have standing relationships with thought that an off-label RX or even the use of BuTrans would be for you they likely would have already suggested going that route. Still, mention BuTrans, if it’s appropriate for you it just might be the ticket or at least a place to start. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that buprenorphine has a MUCH more potent opioid effect than tramadol and even hydrocodone and you will feel that upon induction for the first couple days until your body adjusts. Though it seems counterproductive to take a stronger opioid to treat dependence on a milder opioid, buprenorphine and to an extent methadone have unique properties that keep your receptors saturated for much longer periods of time than other opioids, thus losing the histrionic nature of the opioid roller coaster and creating a more balanced life; keeping the addict inside satisfied, essentially so life can be focused on something other than active addiction 24/7. Keep posting here, good or bad, we’re all invested now, I know I am and I hope all works out with you!

Travis

Is Suboxone Right For Me? Need Advice.

Author: TwinCitiesHardcore

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:00 pm

DocM made a typo actually as Buprex (probably meant Buprenex) is actually an injectable form of buprenorphine hcl for pain control. BuTrans, on the other hand might be a really good option for you and would be what you would want to mention to your providers. It is a CIII medication as is hydrocodone/lortab/vicodon so any doctor who has a DEA # can prescribe it for pain management. It’s a patch similar to the Duragesic (Fentanyl) transdermal patch only BuTrans actually lasts 7 days. Any Dr can also write you a prescription for Suboxone or Subutex for pain OFF LABEL but it’s rather unlikely. A problem is that you have already been through the process of looking into obtaining suboxone via a maintenance clinic or through Dr’s who prescribe under DATA 2000, so if your primary Dr’s/psychiatrists who you have standing relationships with thought that an off-label RX or even the use of BuTrans would be for you they likely would have already suggested going that route. Still, mention BuTrans, if it’s appropriate for you it just might be the ticket or at least a place to start. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that buprenorphine has a MUCH more potent opioid effect than tramadol and even hydrocodone and you will feel that upon induction for the first couple days until your body adjusts. Though it seems counterproductive to take a stronger opioid to treat dependence on a milder opioid, buprenorphine and to an extent methadone have unique properties that keep your receptors saturated for much longer periods of time than other opioids, thus losing the histrionic nature of the opioid roller coaster and creating a more balanced life; keeping the addict inside satisfied, essentially so life can be focused on something other than active addiction 24/7. Keep posting here, good or bad, we’re all invested now, I know I am and I hope all works out with you!

Travis

First time withdrawing, need advice please!

Author: BeautifulDisaster

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Qhorse, i THINK i understand what moviemaker was trying to say. I think what he meant by saying you will never return to a pre-opiate state, is that once you cross the line from from dependance to addiction, you will always techinically be an "addict" even if you do return to a state where you feel normal and happy without opiates. IMO just because you are technically an addict dosent mean that you cant live a happy, productiv e life without opiates, it just means that you will have to put in some work to keep your sobriety and always be aware of our addictive tendencies. I think that most sober addicts will have those fleeting and recurring thoughts that "i can use recreationally, i wont become addicted again, just one more time" and that we have no control over, that is most likely a part of our brain now, but we can learn how to deal with those thoughts and cravings, and relearn how to live again. That does not mean we cant live a happy, meaningfull life, it just means we have to be aware and watch our backs. I think thats what moviemaker was trying to say, but he could have put it a little more gently to someone who at this time is probably feeling like the wd is never
going to end. It WILL end bryan, with time your brain will learn how to function again without opiates, theres just no way to go around it but through it and just know you WILL get there.

First time withdrawing, need advice please!

Author: BeautifulDisaster

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Qhorse, i THINK i understand what moviemaker was trying to say. I think what he meant by saying you will never return to a pre-opiate state, is that once you cross the line from from dependance to addiction, you will always techinically be an "addict" even if you do return to a state where you feel normal and happy without opiates. IMO just because you are technically an addict dosent mean that you cant live a happy, productiv e life without opiates, it just means that you will have to put in some work to keep your sobriety and always be aware of our addictive tendencies. I think that most sober addicts will have those fleeting and recurring thoughts that "i can use recreationally, i wont become addicted again, just one more time" and that we have no control over, that is most likely a part of our brain now, but we can learn how to deal with those thoughts and cravings, and relearn how to live again. That does not mean we cant live a happy, meaningfull life, it just means we have to be aware and watch our backs. I think thats what moviemaker was trying to say, but he could have put it a little more gently to someone who at this time is probably feeling like the wd is never
going to end. It WILL end bryan, with time your brain will learn how to function again without opiates, theres just no way to go around it but through it and just know you WILL get there.

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

Author: SqueakyCleanKS

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:47 pm

I’ve had this problem while taking suboxone and other opiates as well.

What you need to do to lessen this side effect is to drop your dose if you can. Also make sure you drink plenty of water then when you go to the bathroom lean forward because it helps the bladder to drain. Also you can take midol (woman’s period medication) it has a diuretic in it.

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

Author: SqueakyCleanKS

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:47 pm

I’ve had this problem while taking suboxone and other opiates as well.

What you need to do to lessen this side effect is to drop your dose if you can. Also make sure you drink plenty of water then when you go to the bathroom lean forward because it helps the bladder to drain. Also you can take midol (woman’s period medication) it has a diuretic in it.