Author: qhorsegal2

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:59 am

It’s hard to say what dose you need Malsmith, but it sounds like you did take too much. I’m not sure why your doctor would tell you to take 8mg after being on such a low dose of Norco. Honestly, it sounds like you need to find a new doctor. It seems as if the one you have doesn’t understand suboxone very well. If it was me, I would try taking only 2mg today since what you took yesterday will still be in your system, and then try dosing 4mg Saturday split throughout 2-3 doses during the day. Obviously, that’s just a suggestion from another suboxone patient. If you can find the right dose for you all these side effects should go away after you adjust to it. But as has been said before, you are going to drive your tolerance up if you take this very long, so try to keep your dose as low as possible.

What’s the situation with your pancreatitis? Is that going to require surgery? Just be sure that your doctor handling this knows you are on suboxone so they can handle your surgery and aftercare properly.

Author: qhorsegal2

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:21 am

Hello Pot, meet Kettle.

Author: qhorsegal2

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:29 pm

Hey Malsmith,

If I remember right you were only on subs for a very short period of time right? I would be surprized if any of the symptoms you are describing have anything to do with your suboxone use. Really, it should be well out of your system by now. I would say there is something else going on. Hope you figure it out soon.

Author: queenie1959

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:27 pm

My name is Queenie,

I am a double amputee and have been on Suboxone for 3 years due to opiate addiction.

I would be happy to have you interview me. My e-mail is [email protected]. Please feel free.

I have been a member of this forum for about 2 yrears now & there are many beautiful people here I love very much. One of them being the one who brought this post to my attention.

Love Queenie

Author: dboy1987

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:53 pm

Obviously i already know that, im more worried about "getting"
clean first, and in the mean time id rather not lose my job that
supports me and my family. I’ve only been on sub for a month
So i figured jumping from a higher dose wouldn’t be as bad as
if say i was on sub for a year or more, am i wrong about that?

Author: stevemc

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:30 pm

Hey guys,

Been off line for a while. Xonedone, I see you are having your surgery today. Hope all is well. Sorry I did not get to respond before you went in. The support from people who have been there can be important. A small tip that may help you is to focus on your breathing. It helped me with the pain. Some say it is a switch between the conscious/subconscious and how they are tied to each other. To answer your question, I am back on a smaller amount of sub. Was taking the norco after surgery and am glad I had it, but I really don’t want to be on it anymore. I am convinced that being on sub for a longer amount of time is important. You will hear people talk about the 12 years they took heroin, but scoff at being on suboxone for over 1 year as if it is totally ridiculous. You need that time to get away from the lifestyle and forget about it. I believe it takes that long to get back to being yourself mentally also, it just takes a long time for nerves or your brain to heal and get back to normal. Surgery is a scary bump in the road for anyone wanting to stop narcotic use. I was pleasantly surprised that it did not make me go back to the bad thoughts we all dread. I was offered pain meds from a dentist today and just said I don’t need it. That is a big thing for me. So far the worst part is the depression and lack of energy.

Thanks to all who contribute to this forum.

Author: pitbullmomma34

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:00 pm

Tiff, I am in your shoes completely. I came out to my husband first, told him that I was an addict and then I called my mother while she was in Indiana visiting family. When I made the doctors visit, I knew that I would need help with the first month because my husband didn’t get paid until the next week and we wanted to get this ball rolling quickly. We went over to Mom’s and explained how I came to be like this and what we are going to do about it and she "seemed" to understand at first. As time went on and I kept going to the doctors appointments, she quit understanding at all. She acts now like its a way for me to get attention, there are people that I have told along the way and when I run into one of them with Mom I will tell them how I am doing. Its like she gets upset that I am doing so well. She doesn’t understand or care to even go to a meeting, read any type of information, watch any videos NOTHING. She thinks that it is completely stupid for me to pay 300 dollars a month ( cant get insurance unless I pay 500 a month for it) for a doctors visit and the money that we pay for the medicine. She had the nerve to come out and say well, you should stop going to that doctor and put that money towards a car payment or a house payment. My husband was sitting in the backseat of the van and said as long as she is healthy and not sick or a slave to pills, she is going to that doctor. Now that my doctor will let me go every other month, things will be a lot cheaper and different. She still doesn’t care, she wants that money that I use to go to the doctor for her benefit. TO show just how she is, when it came time for my husband to start getting checks she wanted me to give her our check every other week so she could distribute our money out to us. When my first husband and I were together, she tried everyway in the world for me to file income taxes the first year with them and they would give me the difference come to find it out they were shorting us out of 500 dollars and knew about it. Her car that she is trying to sell, she offered it to us for 2500 dollars and is nowhere worth it, her grandson got it scott free and our vehicle is in much worse shape than the one that he was driving.
She does things like this for no apparent reasoning. She is getting more and more greedy by the day. She doesn’t care for anyone but the one that she lives with and his kids/grandkids. I asked her back last week to borrow her vehicle and I would put the gas in it, she said ok because they were going out of town and we had to watch the house anyways. Well, the night before I call to make sure and she claims that she is taking some kids to the gravestone of their great grandfather. I told her well you knew that I needed the van, I was just calling to reassure that I had to go tomorrow and she stuttered around and told us well you can drive Tylers truck which is the vehicle that he left at home and took her car. Mothers are weird, mine is especially. I completely understand what you are going through, if I go to speak about anything with my doctor or medicine she changes the subject completely. She will either get up and leave the room or just talk about something else. It is extremely hurtful, I feel like I am doing well and she will not even acknowledge it. Sorry for going on, I have a lot of anger towards my mother.

Author: Jennicole525

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:25 pm

Heeyyy guuuyyss!

Brighter days- thank you.. I jumped originally from about 2mg after 5 years. I couldn’t get any lower than that. Tapering is very difficult for me to do in lower numbers. Now I’m off of 4mg after 2 1/2 weeks.

Holy wow I’ve been MIA. I’m am alive and doing okay. I’m hanging in there. This has been one fricken process!

So, I did end up going to my sub doc. I did get a script. I’m only human, and I was going NUTS. I wanted some mental relieve ASAP! So I was glad to get back on subs. BUT, here’s the catch. I felt like shit still when I got back on them. It didn’t make me feel any better. Didn’t make any difference. I tried to stick it out for about 2 1/2 weeks remembering how it was when I first got on them 5+ years ago. It took a while for it to build up in my body.

I haven’t taken anything… Nothing, zero, zilch, in about 2 weeks and I just feel like I’m dragging ass. I didn’t go through the whole withdrawal again which is fine with me. I just feel super achey in my elbows and arms. RAM. (Restless arm syndrome again lol) So all in all not too shabby. I just wish I could feel comfortable, normal comfortable, and have energy. Then I’d be all set.

The main reason for me getting back on subs briefly was because I was suffering at work, and everyday activities. Not to mention over 2 months of withdrawal I was starting to go a little crazy. Just a tad

So here’s to keeping on getting off subs. Although I’m not completely in the clear, I feel like its headed towards the right direction. This is something I want to do, as I feel I’m ready and able to accomplish it. What a roller coaster though!! It’s kinda cool to be able to say I’m off of them considering I couldn’t go more than 8 hours without them before

Ill be back sooner than later this time,

Jen

Author: qhorsegal2

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:38 pm

So…have you seen your suboxone doctor yet? I’m wondering how it went and how you are feeling now.

Let us know what’s going on JD!

Q

Author: Amy-Work In Progress

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:40 pm

I’ve never been to NA, so I don’t have much of an opinion on that. Except that it would piss me off if I went and wasn’t allowed to share because I’m on suboxone. If I were to try group, it would probably be SMART Recovery, which isn’t 12 step based. I do think that some sort of support group is important. That’s why I come to this forum almost every day!

I also have an addictions counselor who has been extremely helpful. She has given me concrete tools to use in my recovery, and helped me sort through the reasons I picked up the addiction in the first place.

Amy