Author: Fireman

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:11 am

Squeaky, as far as random drug testing, do you mean getting called randomly and come in to take the drug test whenever or random within each doctor visit?

I’ve never had a problem with the taste of suboxone, but then again i don’t mind the citrus like flavor regularly. For the people that are unsatisfied with the taste, is it because you hate the flavor in general? It don’t taste good but I’m more neutral with it than I ‘like’ it and its certainly better than the odd chemical taste of subutex.

The drug testing is definitely a preference like you said horsegal, but I’m not sure how serious and dedicated a doctor is if they dont. If its not in writing that they do have to test every ‘x’ amount of months and they have a high percentage of relapse then that doctor could get in deep shit with the DEA. Maybe if its bad enough after a warning he could probably lose his license. I get the feeling that some doctors could care less about the patient and just do the bare minimum for their convenience to bring in extra money.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:32 am

Just curious. What role does spirituality play in your life and your recovery? Do you believe in a higher power? Do you consider yourself religious?

I personally find myself at a junction, coming out of a really nasty relapse, lucky to be alive really. I’ve come out with nearly nothing, and many doors that were once open are no longer. But the rooms of the fellowship are always open and there’s always a place to sit, people there telling my story. They speak of this thing called a "higher powa", then they identify themselves as X years clean, no Sub, no methadone. They’re not perfect, just human.. addicts like you and I, but they’ve managed to string together significant time with no opioids.

So what’s the link between this higher power and recovery? Is there one? Do those of us in recovery who are spiritual manage to live with more balance than those of us who do not?

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:32 am

Just curious. What role does spirituality play in your life and your recovery? Do you believe in a higher power? Do you consider yourself religious?

I personally find myself at a junction, coming out of a really nasty relapse, lucky to be alive really. I’ve come out with nearly nothing, and many doors that were once open are no longer. But the rooms of the fellowship are always open and there’s always a place to sit, people there telling my story. They speak of this thing called a "higher powa", then they identify themselves as X years clean, no Sub, no methadone. They’re not perfect, just human.. addicts like you and I, but they’ve managed to string together significant time with no opioids.

So what’s the link between this higher power and recovery? Is there one? Do those of us in recovery who are spiritual manage to live with more balance than those of us who do not?

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:32 am

Just curious. What role does spirituality play in your life and your recovery? Do you believe in a higher power? Do you consider yourself religious?

I personally find myself at a junction, coming out of a really nasty relapse, lucky to be alive really. I’ve come out with nearly nothing, and many doors that were once open are no longer. But the rooms of the fellowship are always open and there’s always a place to sit, people there telling my story. They speak of this thing called a "higher powa", then they identify themselves as X years clean, no Sub, no methadone. They’re not perfect, just human.. addicts like you and I, but they’ve managed to string together significant time with no opioids.

So what’s the link between this higher power and recovery? Is there one? Do those of us in recovery who are spiritual manage to live with more balance than those of us who do not?

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:32 am

Just curious. What role does spirituality play in your life and your recovery? Do you believe in a higher power? Do you consider yourself religious?

I personally find myself at a junction, coming out of a really nasty relapse, lucky to be alive really. I’ve come out with nearly nothing, and many doors that were once open are no longer. But the rooms of the fellowship are always open and there’s always a place to sit, people there telling my story. They speak of this thing called a "higher powa", then they identify themselves as X years clean, no Sub, no methadone. They’re not perfect, just human.. addicts like you and I, but they’ve managed to string together significant time with no opioids.

So what’s the link between this higher power and recovery? Is there one? Do those of us in recovery who are spiritual manage to live with more balance than those of us who do not?

Author: Xonedone

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:58 am

Rum, I wish you the very best of luck. Glad you can see the light! I am hoping your WD symptoms ease quickly, and that you can start sleeping.
I’m going down slower. Am at 1 mg for over a week now, down from 3 mg back in early April. I have been very pleasantly surprised at the mild WD’s I have experienced going down in 0.5 mg steps. I won’t be going any further from here – long story short I’m having surgery next week that will require regular narcotics for less than 2 weeks. Not sure what I’m going to do about my suboxone after the surgical pain eases. It would sure be nice to have suboxone in my past – unless depression and cravings return. Subs have worked beautifully for me for 4-5 years, but I sure would like to be living life completely opiate free!
I hope you are bolstering your jump with NA or AA meetings. I’m an OLD addict – 59. I was raised on the 12 steps and they have helped me immensely over the years.
If you don’t have a crew off 12 step friends, I hope you have supportive family and friends helping you ease your way.
Again, good luck to you, may you get comfortable soon!

Author: Xonedone

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:58 am

Rum, I wish you the very best of luck. Glad you can see the light! I am hoping your WD symptoms ease quickly, and that you can start sleeping.
I’m going down slower. Am at 1 mg for over a week now, down from 3 mg back in early April. I have been very pleasantly surprised at the mild WD’s I have experienced going down in 0.5 mg steps. I won’t be going any further from here – long story short I’m having surgery next week that will require regular narcotics for less than 2 weeks. Not sure what I’m going to do about my suboxone after the surgical pain eases. It would sure be nice to have suboxone in my past – unless depression and cravings return. Subs have worked beautifully for me for 4-5 years, but I sure would like to be living life completely opiate free!
I hope you are bolstering your jump with NA or AA meetings. I’m an OLD addict – 59. I was raised on the 12 steps and they have helped me immensely over the years.
If you don’t have a crew off 12 step friends, I hope you have supportive family and friends helping you ease your way.
Again, good luck to you, may you get comfortable soon!

Author: Xonedone

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:58 am

Rum, I wish you the very best of luck. Glad you can see the light! I am hoping your WD symptoms ease quickly, and that you can start sleeping.
I’m going down slower. Am at 1 mg for over a week now, down from 3 mg back in early April. I have been very pleasantly surprised at the mild WD’s I have experienced going down in 0.5 mg steps. I won’t be going any further from here – long story short I’m having surgery next week that will require regular narcotics for less than 2 weeks. Not sure what I’m going to do about my suboxone after the surgical pain eases. It would sure be nice to have suboxone in my past – unless depression and cravings return. Subs have worked beautifully for me for 4-5 years, but I sure would like to be living life completely opiate free!
I hope you are bolstering your jump with NA or AA meetings. I’m an OLD addict – 59. I was raised on the 12 steps and they have helped me immensely over the years.
If you don’t have a crew off 12 step friends, I hope you have supportive family and friends helping you ease your way.
Again, good luck to you, may you get comfortable soon!

Author: Xonedone

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:58 am

Rum, I wish you the very best of luck. Glad you can see the light! I am hoping your WD symptoms ease quickly, and that you can start sleeping.
I’m going down slower. Am at 1 mg for over a week now, down from 3 mg back in early April. I have been very pleasantly surprised at the mild WD’s I have experienced going down in 0.5 mg steps. I won’t be going any further from here – long story short I’m having surgery next week that will require regular narcotics for less than 2 weeks. Not sure what I’m going to do about my suboxone after the surgical pain eases. It would sure be nice to have suboxone in my past – unless depression and cravings return. Subs have worked beautifully for me for 4-5 years, but I sure would like to be living life completely opiate free!
I hope you are bolstering your jump with NA or AA meetings. I’m an OLD addict – 59. I was raised on the 12 steps and they have helped me immensely over the years.
If you don’t have a crew off 12 step friends, I hope you have supportive family and friends helping you ease your way.
Again, good luck to you, may you get comfortable soon!

Author: SouthJaxBeach

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:20 am

Hi Everyone – just want to pop in with an update and I’m happy to report I’ve been clean from subs and opiates for 6 months today. It’s been great! It wasn’t hard, it wasn’t painful at all, it just takes time and determination. Anyone can stop and if they put their mind to it.

Staying clean and happy takes work too. I would say every bit as much work as stopping requires. Cravings haven’t been much of an issue for me, it’s been harder just remembering how to keep yourself happy, naturally. Eating right and working out(walking, running, gym, etc) has really helped my mental state of being. You learn to really appreciate that natural endorphin rush again.

It’s hard to say what are PAWS and what are natural feelings, but I think my overall happiness and well being have continued to improve through this first 6 months. Around month 4/5 I started to actually get use to living without opiates and I think things are still improving.

Good luck to everyone out there!