Monthly Archives: May 2013

What did I do?

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Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:35 pm

suboxdoc wrote:
If a person uses Vicodin for a year then oxys for a month then dilaudid for a month then methadone for a month—- thinking each time that THIS TIME will be different…. But it always turns out the same… Then he does Suboxone for a month… What, exactly, are people expecting to happen?

New guy– do NOT make the mistake of thinking that there are a bunch of people here who are almost done tapering off Suboxone. There is too much lying with the industry, than to build this forum on lies.

Tapering off Suboxone is very difficult. Those who do taper off usually end back on opioids. According to two major studies this year, people on Suboxone one month who tapered off Suboxone had a 96% one-yr relapse rate. People on it for a year, after tapering, had a 94% one-yr relapse rate.

People in the US are dependent on meds to treat many more minor conditions; nobody thinks less of the dependent on meds for high blood pressure.

You’ll find varying opinions here—- but remember that many people still taking Suboxone somehow considers themselves experts in living without it…. And few of the boasters of sobriety have been off everything for 6 months— let alone a few years! Know your own truth.

Great post. Finally found it.

Please read this entire thread if you have a second. It’s worth it.

What did I do?

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Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:35 pm

suboxdoc wrote:
If a person uses Vicodin for a year then oxys for a month then dilaudid for a month then methadone for a month—- thinking each time that THIS TIME will be different…. But it always turns out the same… Then he does Suboxone for a month… What, exactly, are people expecting to happen?

New guy– do NOT make the mistake of thinking that there are a bunch of people here who are almost done tapering off Suboxone. There is too much lying with the industry, than to build this forum on lies.

Tapering off Suboxone is very difficult. Those who do taper off usually end back on opioids. According to two major studies this year, people on Suboxone one month who tapered off Suboxone had a 96% one-yr relapse rate. People on it for a year, after tapering, had a 94% one-yr relapse rate.

People in the US are dependent on meds to treat many more minor conditions; nobody thinks less of the dependent on meds for high blood pressure.

You’ll find varying opinions here—- but remember that many people still taking Suboxone somehow considers themselves experts in living without it…. And few of the boasters of sobriety have been off everything for 6 months— let alone a few years! Know your own truth.

Great post. Finally found it.

Please read this entire thread if you have a second. It’s worth it.

What did I do?

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Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:35 pm

suboxdoc wrote:
If a person uses Vicodin for a year then oxys for a month then dilaudid for a month then methadone for a month—- thinking each time that THIS TIME will be different…. But it always turns out the same… Then he does Suboxone for a month… What, exactly, are people expecting to happen?

New guy– do NOT make the mistake of thinking that there are a bunch of people here who are almost done tapering off Suboxone. There is too much lying with the industry, than to build this forum on lies.

Tapering off Suboxone is very difficult. Those who do taper off usually end back on opioids. According to two major studies this year, people on Suboxone one month who tapered off Suboxone had a 96% one-yr relapse rate. People on it for a year, after tapering, had a 94% one-yr relapse rate.

People in the US are dependent on meds to treat many more minor conditions; nobody thinks less of the dependent on meds for high blood pressure.

You’ll find varying opinions here—- but remember that many people still taking Suboxone somehow considers themselves experts in living without it…. And few of the boasters of sobriety have been off everything for 6 months— let alone a few years! Know your own truth.

Great post. Finally found it.

Please read this entire thread if you have a second. It’s worth it.

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:39 pm

I’m in my early twenties and i experience it mildly, nothing even close to what the original poster described but nonetheless it is extremely frustrating and a problem. I don’t blame it on suboxone but I don’t think I’d have the problem if i never abused drugs like i did. I do remember the symptoms starting 6 months or so after abusing oxycodone.

Its still prevalent in people who don’t abuse drugs but rather naturally, especially in older people as the bodies functions get worse, so it is hard to determine what causes it. The drugs could only make it worse because of the effect it has on your liver and kidney so I get the feeling that’s the reason. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is mental. Anyone else get this thought?

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:39 pm

I’m in my early twenties and i experience it mildly, nothing even close to what the original poster described but nonetheless it is extremely frustrating and a problem. I don’t blame it on suboxone but I don’t think I’d have the problem if i never abused drugs like i did. I do remember the symptoms starting 6 months or so after abusing oxycodone.

Its still prevalent in people who don’t abuse drugs but rather naturally, especially in older people as the bodies functions get worse, so it is hard to determine what causes it. The drugs could only make it worse because of the effect it has on your liver and kidney so I get the feeling that’s the reason. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is mental. Anyone else get this thought?

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:39 pm

I’m in my early twenties and i experience it mildly, nothing even close to what the original poster described but nonetheless it is extremely frustrating and a problem. I don’t blame it on suboxone but I don’t think I’d have the problem if i never abused drugs like i did. I do remember the symptoms starting 6 months or so after abusing oxycodone.

Its still prevalent in people who don’t abuse drugs but rather naturally, especially in older people as the bodies functions get worse, so it is hard to determine what causes it. The drugs could only make it worse because of the effect it has on your liver and kidney so I get the feeling that’s the reason. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is mental. Anyone else get this thought?

Cant urinate on Suboxone-Sever

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:39 pm

I’m in my early twenties and i experience it mildly, nothing even close to what the original poster described but nonetheless it is extremely frustrating and a problem. I don’t blame it on suboxone but I don’t think I’d have the problem if i never abused drugs like i did. I do remember the symptoms starting 6 months or so after abusing oxycodone.

Its still prevalent in people who don’t abuse drugs but rather naturally, especially in older people as the bodies functions get worse, so it is hard to determine what causes it. The drugs could only make it worse because of the effect it has on your liver and kidney so I get the feeling that’s the reason. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is mental. Anyone else get this thought?

Life with a mouth full of Subliva

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:11 am

Squeaky, as far as random drug testing, do you mean getting called randomly and come in to take the drug test whenever or random within each doctor visit?

I’ve never had a problem with the taste of suboxone, but then again i don’t mind the citrus like flavor regularly. For the people that are unsatisfied with the taste, is it because you hate the flavor in general? It don’t taste good but I’m more neutral with it than I ‘like’ it and its certainly better than the odd chemical taste of subutex.

The drug testing is definitely a preference like you said horsegal, but I’m not sure how serious and dedicated a doctor is if they dont. If its not in writing that they do have to test every ‘x’ amount of months and they have a high percentage of relapse then that doctor could get in deep shit with the DEA. Maybe if its bad enough after a warning he could probably lose his license. I get the feeling that some doctors could care less about the patient and just do the bare minimum for their convenience to bring in extra money.

Life with a mouth full of Subliva

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:11 am

Squeaky, as far as random drug testing, do you mean getting called randomly and come in to take the drug test whenever or random within each doctor visit?

I’ve never had a problem with the taste of suboxone, but then again i don’t mind the citrus like flavor regularly. For the people that are unsatisfied with the taste, is it because you hate the flavor in general? It don’t taste good but I’m more neutral with it than I ‘like’ it and its certainly better than the odd chemical taste of subutex.

The drug testing is definitely a preference like you said horsegal, but I’m not sure how serious and dedicated a doctor is if they dont. If its not in writing that they do have to test every ‘x’ amount of months and they have a high percentage of relapse then that doctor could get in deep shit with the DEA. Maybe if its bad enough after a warning he could probably lose his license. I get the feeling that some doctors could care less about the patient and just do the bare minimum for their convenience to bring in extra money.

Life with a mouth full of Subliva

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Author: Fireman

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:11 am

Squeaky, as far as random drug testing, do you mean getting called randomly and come in to take the drug test whenever or random within each doctor visit?

I’ve never had a problem with the taste of suboxone, but then again i don’t mind the citrus like flavor regularly. For the people that are unsatisfied with the taste, is it because you hate the flavor in general? It don’t taste good but I’m more neutral with it than I ‘like’ it and its certainly better than the odd chemical taste of subutex.

The drug testing is definitely a preference like you said horsegal, but I’m not sure how serious and dedicated a doctor is if they dont. If its not in writing that they do have to test every ‘x’ amount of months and they have a high percentage of relapse then that doctor could get in deep shit with the DEA. Maybe if its bad enough after a warning he could probably lose his license. I get the feeling that some doctors could care less about the patient and just do the bare minimum for their convenience to bring in extra money.