Author: DrAyers

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:07 pm

Hello-
I’m Dr. Kara Ayers and I lead a bi-weekly therapy group for people engaged in a local Suboxone program. I’m learning about the many different perspectives on the drug and bring my own unique perspective to the issue as well. I have a permanent disability that causes chronic pain. I’ve noticed that many people share a common experience as what may have started their path to opiates. In addition to my role as a therapist, I’m also a writer. I’m writing an article for New Mobility Magazine (a paper magazine that’s also available online) and I need to find people who both use a wheelchair and take Suboxone to interview for the article. I know this is quite specific (and that many people with disabilities on Suboxone might not necessarily use a wheelchair most of the time) but the magazine has requested a very specific profile for interviews. Do you or someone you know meet this criteria and would you be willing to speak to me for a brief interview on your experience?
I feel like there are many more people with disabilities struggling with addiction than we even know…very few have even heard of Suboxone. I hope this article will bring awareness and give more people more choices. Please respond to this thread or feel free to email me at writekara at gmail dot com. Thank-you so much for your time and I’m happy to see such a supportive community exists.

Author: Vangie

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:30 pm

Hi squeaky. Naw I am talking about draper. Movie maker rocks.

Author: Bboy42287

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:38 pm

Suboxone wrecked havoc on my urinary functions. It ruined y life to the point I had a cystoscopey because things got so bad. To those who don’t know what a cystoscopey is its when u have a camera inserted in your uretha and pushed far down your shit. It was the most painfull thing I’ve ever expirenced in my life. All to find out nothing was wrong it was the suboxone causing the problem. I remember not sleeping for five days because I felt like I had to go to the bathroom 24 hours a day. I ended up on a serious tranquilizer just so I can go to sleep every night. After stopping suboxone and it was completely out of my system I never had the problem again. A big part of this is mental too once you convince yourself there is a serious problem you obsess on it every day to the point were your brain starts to make your body do it. What really help me was staying busy and not letting it ruin my day and once in a while my sub Dr would write me a five day supply of Valium when things got real bad.

Author: SqueakyCleanKS

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:47 pm

I’m so sorry to hear about how your job treated you. That is so messed up! They basically told you that if you would have worked slower the whole time you wouldn’t have got any kind of warning. My husband is going through something similar at his job right now. He is doing twice as much work as most of his co-workers because they work so damn slow. He runs laps around them, and they are getting paid the same as he is. So all he is asking his boss is to be paid more since he is doing more work. He has yet to see a raise and is currently looking for another job. It’s so bad all these companies are putting profits before people. When my husband and I owned our business we paid every one of our employees very well, and if te business did well they each got bonuses. Which encouraged them to put in 100% effort. However if you are making the same amount as someone doing half the work and no matter what you do nothing’s gonna change why make the effort? What they should have done for you was given you a raise and then told you since you were such a great employee and were so good at your job then they would be giving you extra responsibilities. However extra responsibilities (read as work) should always come with extra pay!

Good luck to you on finding a job that is worthy of your talent and hard work. You deserve it!

Squeaky

Author: jonathanm1978

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 5:47 pm

I am far from living in a large city though…I just have the means to drive around from the southern part of birmingham to the east side of the city…I don’t really have any time constraints on me when it comes to doctor visits…since I’m a stay-home dad, that’s usually one of the 3-4 times a month that I get out of the house. It’s a small area for about a 25-mile radius around me, so for the past 28 years that I’ve lived here, when someone says they are going into the city…it usually mean Birmingham or Montgomery, since it’s about the same distance to either one. Montgomery’s route just has more hills and less 4-lane…or no 4-lane i should say…so usually people just head to Bham.

I’ve been going to Birmingham since 2011 for my dr visits…but it’s been just barely inside where the city starts …I hit 3 red lights and I"m there….but my new doctor…9 red lights, then turn onto I-459…459 for 12 miles, then I-59…I-59 for 4 miles, then 6 red lights and I’m there…

Went from 45 minutes to my doc to being 1hr 15/25 minutes, depending on traffic. I’ll try to visit more often…Just because I quit coming here doesn’t mean I quit studying and trying to gain knowledge on Suboxone…so along with my 5 years of consistent Suboxone treatment, I have NUMEROUS hours of reading under my belt.
I still have vices with my wife because she’s never been addicted to anything except maybe coffee…and she doesn’t quite understand the disease part of this all…even after all the years I’ve been clean / sober and a totally different person from what I was before. The most recent "spat" was when I changed doctors…she thinks I should be able to just stop…and isn’t fond of taking ANYTHING …but we usually only have that disagreement about twice a year.

June 6 will be 15 years we’ve been making it work…and still going strong. So I doubt it’s divorce or separation material…but I’d like for her to understand more about my situation and the fear I have of ever being subjected to opiates again, or the withdrawals they bring afterwards.

Author: BeautifulDisaster

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:28 pm

Im sry malsmith, i dont think theres gonna be an easy way to stop the norco paon free, and i doubt anyone here would be able to tell you how to taper norco. Most of us are here because we couldnt taper our doc. The logical thing would be to take less and less over time, but sometimes doing that can be difficult, especially for different personalitys. I understand youve been using them for years so its not gonna be easy.You can try the otc meds and vitamins and other things mentioned but noting is gonna completly take the wd away but time.Im sorry i dont have any really good advice for you.

Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:27 am

Hey man.

That’s awesome you made it this far dood.

What made you start to consider coming back to suboxone?

Is it the knowing how you feel on it and wanting that back?

I’m just curious.

Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:47 am

Hey. Thanks man. Thanks to you both really.

My life didn’t start to actually change and actually get better in a real sense until I tried to find spirituality in my life/recovery.

I tried just going to meetings and not doing much, going to counseling/random treatments, taking suboxone and just living life, ect. I tried tons of variations of many things to try and not only stay clean but be happy doing it and that puzzle didn’t come together for me until I just completely gave up trying to control how my recovery or life was GOING to work. I just started listening to others that seemed at least half sane, made some clean friends to hang with… Well one lol…, giving recovery an HONEST attempt, forcing myself to do "right things" until it stuck, and prayed/lived a somewhat spiritual way.

Faith has changed my life drastically. I’ll say that again….. FAITH has changed my LIFE drastically. Not just my recovery "life"

Being able to wake up, go to work, play around, and go to bed… All without worrying about problems I have to fix or bullshit that doesn’t really matter…. Is the best thing ever. This is why I don’t stress the whole getting off of suboxone thing. I feel like if I’m supposed to be off of it, then things will present themselves at the right time. Now. I’m not an advocate for saying that I don’t have to worry about ANYTHING because my HP will take care of me NO MATTER WHAT. Many don’t plan ahead or anything. Even quit jobs. All because their hp will take care of it. This is so not the way it was intended to be understood.

You have to take care of yourself ahead of all else. If you are wreck less and still act super self centered…. Like quitting a job because you don’t get your way…. Your hp isn’t going to be their waiting to catch you.

My point is. Do the best you can and your hp will take care of you. End of story.

Also. Your hp doesnt "test" you. It doesn’t put drugs in your face to ser if you’ll do them or make your tire go flat in the way to work ti see how you handle it. You put yourself around drugs and tire flattening is just the luck of the draw. Your hp isn’t going to do anything to hurt you. It’s here to help. That’s all. It’ll never give you more than you can handle.

So. I’m happy today. Happy with my life. Happy with my one good friend. Just happy. All because I continue to do the best that I can to stay clean, do the right things, make good decisions, ect. And in return my higher power watches over me. Whether it’s the unexpected bonus at work when I’m strapped for cash, a friend feeding me a kick ass meal when I’m starving lol, or this happiness I feel on a daily basis. He’s there. I trust him. It works.

Author: isaydig

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:48 am

This isn’t my first time getting off opiates, but it’s my first time getting off suboxone. I was on it for 6 months and tapered down to 1 mg and now I’m on my 4th day without any. How long will this physical part last? Is it different for everyone? I know the physical pains of getting off opiates cold turkey in the past lasted about a week to two weeks…is this the same for suboxone? My 3rd night without them was last night and I sweat all night and continued to sweat all day. For some reason that’s the worst part for me! There’s nothing worse than sweating while sitting down doing NOTHING! So, obviously tonight is my first night being unable to sleep…the past 3 nights i slept like a rock…the first two nights i didn’t sweat at all, but last night it started and hasn’t stopped…..anyone have any idea how long i should expect this part? i know what to expect mentally, and that it lasts longer than the physical, but i just feel like this is going to last forever because the half life is so insanely long! i’m on day 4 technically, but it’s like day 1????
i’m a vegetarian with a pretty "clean" diet other than the suboxone so i’ve been avoiding sugar, drinking tons of filtered water, green tea, spirulina, probiotic, fruits/veg (organic), Hyland’s mag/phos, Hyland’s kali/phos, vitamin B complex, alpha lipoic acid supplement, CoQ10, milk thistle, omega 3s, l-tyrosine in the AM, 5-htp in the PM, immodium as needed, and epsom salt baths when i can convince myself to get undressed because i’m freezing wearing LAYERS of clothes–and it’s hot here in Georgia! anyway, I just needed some suggestions, detox experiences, words of encouragement, anything. thanks so much <3

Author: Thegreatestislove

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:05 am

Thank You to everyone who has been so supportive. I do plan to stick around. I also hope I may be an encouragment to anyone going through this battle. If anything I post can help even 1 person or answer a question for someone then I am happy for that. We are all in this together.