Author: TeeJay

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:49 am

It might be worth revisiting this old thread. I’ve finally stabilised after relapsing on heroin and finding myself with a habit that made it difficult to re-induce on Sub. I might not have known it at the time, but I may have done a bit of Homer’s technique without knowing it.

When first coming back on Sub, I found myself with some of the PW symptoms Stargazer mentioned. Sweating, goosebumps, limbs twitching like a crazy-man. Myoclonic jerks have been mentioned on this forum before, usually when falling asleep. I literally found myself elbowing anyone and anything sitting next to me. That was dosing approx 18 hours after last use, and I’d also cut down my habit from 1.7g a day of China to under a gram to prepare for the switch.

So against better judgement & conviction I kept using, in this limbo-land of really wanting to get back on Sub, but running back to the H to relieve precipitated withdrawal. But as I kept dosing intermittently, gradually the heroin was blocked more as the Sub stacked in my body. Eventually I found myself dosing more, and using less. While all this was going on, sanity gradually returned. My 12mg of Sub now holds me the full 24 hours, which was the dose I was on before the relapse.

While the induction was far from painless, I can see how there’d be merit to Homer’s idea. There’s been some people recently struggling to induce with large gear-habits, so it might be worth aiming for this smooth transition.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:12 am

Anyone else seen this?

http://www.methadoneman.org/

It’s a bit corny. I spent a few minutes following the funding to see who / what was behind the initiative. Seems it’s backed by George Soros’ Open Society Institute, a think-tank that’s all about breaking down communism and furthering the free market. Seems benign, at least in comparison to RB’s marketing tactics.

One thing that I noticed in the videos is their emphasis on how methadone and buprenorphine benefit society by reducing HIV and reducing crime. I’ve wondered in the past whether maintenance programs are championed moreso for the benefit of society as a whole than the addicts themselves.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:15 am

Hey Honeybun…

It’ll be alright.

The anxiety is just a barrier you need to break through. When you come out the other side it’ll just be a memory. Keep it up and keep your eye on the prize.

Author: JohnB007

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:47 am

Advertisements on TV for Cymbalta? I’ve been on both Cymbalta and Effexor? I was not made aware of the w/d’s, even with slow tapering. Effexor = 6 months of cattle prod like jolts, day and night, avoiding Benzo’s as much as possible (I didn’t need another addiction to contend with). Cymbalta was a roller-coaster, near bi-polar like w/d’s, although not much in the Manic high range compared to the lows. At the mental health facilities I stayed, many patients reported these effects.
This seems very odd

Author: Kitty36

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:21 am

Thanks for the reply! I think I’ve lost all faith in my doctor. When I told him about the extreme tiredness, he told me I was depressed. I said I’m not sad, just really tired. He insisted it was depression and prescribed me Wellbutrin, which is supposed to give you energy. In the five weeks I’ve been taking it, I actually do feel depressed now, and really moody. But I’ve had experience with antidepressants, so I know it can take about two months to start working. Still, I wanted to discuss this with my doc at my visit last week. However, as soon as I sat down he tells me my urine test was dirty, for amphetamines. I don’t take amphetamines, never have. I ask if it could be the Wellbutrin, since that’s the only thing different from every other month. He says absolutely not. He says it may be a lab error, but if it happens again he won’t be able to treat me anymore. I completely lost it, started crying and hyperventilating, which is not normal for me. I tell him I’m actually doing everything right, taking only what he’s prescribed. I tell him I feel like shit, all the time, so tired I was falling asleep in the waiting room, so tired I can barely make the 8 minute drive home from work, and you’re telling me I’m on amphetamines?! He didn’t say much, other than babbling about the DEA and him getting in trouble. He gave me my scripts and said hopefully the next urine test will be clean. As soon as I got home I googled Wellbutrin and false positives, and there’s like a million links. Apparently that’s a well known problem. I discovered it even said so in my medication guide from the pharmacy..Wellbutrin is known to cause false positives for amphetamines in urine drug screenings. How could my doctor not know this? He’s a psychiatrist. He had to know this, yet he let me sit there having a breakdown over this and didn’t say a word. So I really lost a lot of respect for him. But finding another doctor who takes insurance and works around me and my husband’s work schedules is probably impossible. So anyway, I think I’ll rely on information from this forum, because I trust what people here say, more than my doctor. He still wants me on 16mg a day. I’ve been taking 10mg the past four days and plan on trying to get even lower over the next week and a half, while I’m off from work. I think it’s helped a little. I was actually able to sit and read a book without nodding out. That’s definite improvement! I think I feel better too, now that I’ve vented about my doctor. That’s had me beyond pissed for the past week. So again, to anyone reading this, thanks for all the information you provide on this forum. It’s been really helpful

Author: Kitty36

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:49 am

Let’s Get it Started
–Black Eyed Peas

Get Inside
–Stone Sour

Author: jonathanm1978

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:13 am

I installed a DVR security system for a gas station, the best bet for outside cams is a LED camera with a locking outer shell to house the camera…and if you really want to be "secure", use metal conduit that starts inside the metal shell, and has no breaks or joints outside the house…meaning one solid piece of metal conduit from the camera to a safe place inside that isn’t accessible with a ladder/bed of a pickup/etc.

I use a Rosewill IP camera inside my home, with DDNS service that I pay for yearly through dyndns.com.
Model number of my particular camera is RSCM-12002.
You can also get cameras that pan and tilt, which are a little more expensive. The only time I use mine is on vacation, and I use motion detection with it pointed high enough that animals won’t trigger it, but low enough to avoid ceiling fans (and also the shadows from ceiling fan rotation during different times of day).

Keep in mind when using motion detection, you need to know where sunlight comes in, what it casts shadows on, and make sure you don’t point it too far into your yard so that random animals won’t trigger recording. Directly at a door/window, or in an area you must walk in, like a hallway, foyer, etc…would be best.

Author: Amy14921978

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:45 am

This weekend I went shopping with my youngest daughter. We went out and bought some summer clothes and flip flops and things. It was so awesome to be able to SHOP! Just a few months back I would have gotten paid and went directly to buy whatever pills I had lined up for that Friday, and probably had to stop by some where to drop off $$ I had borrowed against my paycheck too. Within two hrs of getting paid, I used to be broke. I now actually have money to carry around in my purse!!! Lol. I had honestly forgotten the joy I feel when browsing for and actually being able to PURCHASE things for my kids or the family! Now dont get me wrong, I am not rich by any means (6 kids, plus my bf and I)- my man has a good paying union job (concrete finisher), but I only work part time and am mostly a stay-at-home-mom. But when I figure the hundreds and hundreds of $ I used to scrape up for pills – it is just so rewarding to see that money spent on things I can see and touch a week later……
Did any of you notice such a change in your financial circumstances when getting clean? (And yes, I consider those of us just on Sub clean). I know I’m not the only one!

Author: BrighterDays

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:47 am

TD,

This thread is sooo inspiring to me.. I have been feeling SO hope and helpless lately.. I have been trying to ween and than find out I have to have my wisdom teeth removed, This was a huge fear of mine because I don’t personally want to take pain meds right after jumping from subs. I wanted to tell you that I noticed you said your anxiety was really bad? Did that subside after stopping the subs? I have NEVER had such bad issues with anxiety until now.. Mine can get so bad that my hands actually contort and my legs are on fire due to the oxygen not getting to them because I’m hyperventalating.. I am also getting sick ALOT and I’ve only tapered from 4mgs down to 2 but I can tell a big difference. I am not like I used to be, Can’t be in big crowds, can’t read horror w/’d stories Etc. I have noticed other people complaining of this too while taking sub for more than two years.. I can’t help but to believe it’s involved some way shape or form. I think you are AWESOME! I just wanted to tell you that you give me great hope! I have four children and I am scared because they are all involved in something.. I can’t imagine not having energy but this has been my excuse for to long. People do it daily so I am trying to change my way of thinking. I will just have to do it ya know? Well anyways I just really wanted to thank you for posting this.. It’s made such an impression on me! WTG! You are AWESOME!

Brighty

Author: qhorsegal2

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:02 pm

So cool!

Thanks for the update SJB, it’s good to see you doing so well!

-Q