Author: MannyZ

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:36 pm

Hey Guys,

I am quitting suboxone, after having been on it since Jan 10th, 2013. At peak, I was taking 2 mg per day, and over the last week, I have tapered further. I am currently at .5 mg per day, a quarter of a N2 strip, and am looking to go further before jumping. I am going to jail in the first week of May, so my sub doctor suggested to quit in three weeks and allow three weeks of no sub to return to equilibrium. I had not told my doc about having to go to jail, because I didn’t know about the incarceration until my last court date. Assuming that they are not going to let me take it in jail, I plan on quitting sub no later than April 10th.

Any help would be appreciated coming off the .5 mg dose. I have Clonidine, 0.2 mg tablets.

*A bit more info, I was a heroin addict for about a year, up until last October. Smoked it for 4 months, then shot three bags a day for the last eight months up til October. Then, got arrested. Quit with three N8 (Suboxone 8mg/2mg) pills. I waited three months to go on sub maintenance, Jan 10th, because I couldn’t take the depression or anxiety anymore. I knew subs could be more addicting than the H, but I just wanted to feel normal temporarily. I guess if I wouldn’t have started sub, I would have felt a lot better than i did 3 months, but what’s done is done. Sub’s have helped me over the last 3 months, but I’ve had a foggy head and I guess quitting after 3 months could benefit me in the long run.

Author: MannyZ

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:36 pm

Hey Guys,

I am quitting suboxone, after having been on it since Jan 10th, 2013. At peak, I was taking 2 mg per day, and over the last week, I have tapered further. I am currently at .5 mg per day, a quarter of a N2 strip, and am looking to go further before jumping. I am going to jail in the first week of May, so my sub doctor suggested to quit in three weeks and allow three weeks of no sub to return to equilibrium. I had not told my doc about having to go to jail, because I didn’t know about the incarceration until my last court date. Assuming that they are not going to let me take it in jail, I plan on quitting sub no later than April 10th.

Any help would be appreciated coming off the .5 mg dose. I have Clonidine, 0.2 mg tablets.

*A bit more info, I was a heroin addict for about a year, up until last October. Smoked it for 4 months, then shot three bags a day for the last eight months up til October. Then, got arrested. Quit with three N8 (Suboxone 8mg/2mg) pills. I waited three months to go on sub maintenance, Jan 10th, because I couldn’t take the depression or anxiety anymore. I knew subs could be more addicting than the H, but I just wanted to feel normal temporarily. I guess if I wouldn’t have started sub, I would have felt a lot better than i did 3 months, but what’s done is done. Sub’s have helped me over the last 3 months, but I’ve had a foggy head and I guess quitting after 3 months could benefit me in the long run.

Author: Untitled

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:06 pm

My response is long overdue to you all, if you knew how seriously I take this board…you’d all laugh. As seriously as I take every major thing in life. Jmdear, I love what you said about a magic wand. That sums it up for me. I’d fill and fix every addict if I could, I see addiction as a beast that hits and skews "normal" life problems. We all learned this way to escape (or deal). And it’s so hard to forget.

I am a pain patient too. I have fought that label because I know so, so many pain patients that troop through it. Why can’t I?

I suppose my dose "guesses" are based on those used for pain/depression. I’ve always left sub as an option if my own efforts didn’t yield good results. The crazy thing is…I’ve obsessed over sub like people do their DOC!! It hits me as such an irony when I read about how sub takes the obsession away! I also try with all my heart and soul to fit it in my faith in God. That’s where I really, really need help. Please. I feel conflicted, like I should be stronger.

I did 3 things before replying here (what’s the point in rambling without action?)…I made an appointment for counseling (soonest was next week). I can’t tell the counselor about sub. Same protocol as IOP, complete abstinence is the only counselors my insurance will pay for. NA/AA isn’t an option in my community (please see my post on abuse/children)…and, I had initial blood work done for sub treatment by a doc recommended to me by my pdoc. When I said I adjust my benzo dose,

please let me be clear, I adjust down. I either take my prescribed dose, take less, or none. I’m actually afraid of meds & have the utmost respect for benzos. How I don’t have the "dose according to how you really feel" mechanism with opiates? I don’t know! I’ll avoid benzos until my heartrate is over 250. Why I can’t pull that inner strength with opiates is a profound mystery to me. Am I someone that is better being somewhat numb? After all this time, yes. I think so.

I am so sorry to be a disappointment after all this time. Oh Dear God yes. And the 3rd thing I did was soul search. I am not in any way mentally supported enough or; ready on my own, for total abstinence. I tried. With all my might, which leads me into the spiritual questioning. I DO believe Christ strengthens us all. I feel like the ultimate failure for not grasping that strength. Don’t we all want to stop opiates? I did! Why am I a failure?

I will do it once and for all. I don’t doubt it because I’m still here..through more heartache, by the grace of God, I’m still here.

But for now, my personal PAWS have no escape, no patience, no empathy. I’ve jogged it out u till I’m bones and I can’t drag anyone else through this with me. Everyone is beyond tired, and disgusted with me. I understand they feel, I feel it myself.

So tomorrow, I induce. I’m so darn hopeful. And scared to death! I don’t even know how to take it and hold it in my mouth. I hope I don’t get sick. I’m just scared of the ill and cure. I don’t really know, on the eve of my induction, what my cure is. Thank you all, I DO need you guys.

With much love,
Un

Author: Untitled

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:06 pm

My response is long overdue to you all, if you knew how seriously I take this board…you’d all laugh. As seriously as I take every major thing in life. Jmdear, I love what you said about a magic wand. That sums it up for me. I’d fill and fix every addict if I could, I see addiction as a beast that hits and skews "normal" life problems. We all learned this way to escape (or deal). And it’s so hard to forget.

I am a pain patient too. I have fought that label because I know so, so many pain patients that troop through it. Why can’t I?

I suppose my dose "guesses" are based on those used for pain/depression. I’ve always left sub as an option if my own efforts didn’t yield good results. The crazy thing is…I’ve obsessed over sub like people do their DOC!! It hits me as such an irony when I read about how sub takes the obsession away! I also try with all my heart and soul to fit it in my faith in God. That’s where I really, really need help. Please. I feel conflicted, like I should be stronger.

I did 3 things before replying here (what’s the point in rambling without action?)…I made an appointment for counseling (soonest was next week). I can’t tell the counselor about sub. Same protocol as IOP, complete abstinence is the only counselors my insurance will pay for. NA/AA isn’t an option in my community (please see my post on abuse/children)…and, I had initial blood work done for sub treatment by a doc recommended to me by my pdoc. When I said I adjust my benzo dose,

please let me be clear, I adjust down. I either take my prescribed dose, take less, or none. I’m actually afraid of meds & have the utmost respect for benzos. How I don’t have the "dose according to how you really feel" mechanism with opiates? I don’t know! I’ll avoid benzos until my heartrate is over 250. Why I can’t pull that inner strength with opiates is a profound mystery to me. Am I someone that is better being somewhat numb? After all this time, yes. I think so.

I am so sorry to be a disappointment after all this time. Oh Dear God yes. And the 3rd thing I did was soul search. I am not in any way mentally supported enough or; ready on my own, for total abstinence. I tried. With all my might, which leads me into the spiritual questioning. I DO believe Christ strengthens us all. I feel like the ultimate failure for not grasping that strength. Don’t we all want to stop opiates? I did! Why am I a failure?

I will do it once and for all. I don’t doubt it because I’m still here..through more heartache, by the grace of God, I’m still here.

But for now, my personal PAWS have no escape, no patience, no empathy. I’ve jogged it out u till I’m bones and I can’t drag anyone else through this with me. Everyone is beyond tired, and disgusted with me. I understand they feel, I feel it myself.

So tomorrow, I induce. I’m so darn hopeful. And scared to death! I don’t even know how to take it and hold it in my mouth. I hope I don’t get sick. I’m just scared of the ill and cure. I don’t really know, on the eve of my induction, what my cure is. Thank you all, I DO need you guys.

With much love,
Un

Author: tinydancer

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:29 pm

^ You have to change the pixels rather than the image size. Are you on a PC or MAC? If you’re on a pc and go into paint, there should be a tab that allows you to modify pixels.. I think the limit is 105.. You could email me your pic if you’d like.. Anyway, I like piper for a cats name. I pay my pipers every fucking day, all day long.

Author: jmdear

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:29 pm

Just reading this whole thread and had to pop in and say Congrats to Varitech and also Lilly and the others who have come off this. It truly does inspire those of us getting ready to "jump". Lilly, was hoping you could update too…Praying for all of you!

Author: Orange doll

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:52 pm

Wow Mycovery, sounds like a wild ride!

Its awesome you came clean to you mom and were able to get help.

Im really interested in your story with this doctor. He was really meeting you in parking lots and making you deposit money into his bank account? Holy shit! What happened to him? Did anyone complain and get him in trouble? Or was he caught doing this? My doctor is so professional and supportive….I just can’t even imagine going through that. I would really like to hear more about that.

Anyway, welcome to this forum. It can be a really awesome supportive place!

Author: tinydancer

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:54 pm

I thought that was already occurring via the fluoride in the water and the chemtrails in the air, no? Now you’re telling me we have ORT to worry about too? Sigh..

(Sorry Amy.. )

Author: tinydancer

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:03 pm

** dead**

Author: Mommy2bx2

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:13 pm

Hello all!!!
I feel so blessed to have so many people following my situation it’s helping me tremendously!
I started back on the subutex I’m taking 4mgs a day.. Spread out thruought the day, and they put me back on .25 as needed (once a night) colonipin, which has helped me eat, helped me sleep, I can take a shower every day I haven’t thrown up in a week, haven’t went one sleepless night in over a week, and have gained five pounds in two weeks of the 20 I lost the first trimester. I’m now 14.3 weeks, and got an ultrasound did the neurotranslucency test everything’s fine got blood work done for any genetic disorders and the baby’s completely fine.
Now here’s where I get knocked back down….(which has been happening alot)
My ob did a drug screen when I was 5 weeks, I had a trace of marijuana in my system so she alerted child protective services.
I smoked one bowl one time two weeks before I found out I was pregnant because I was in and out of the hospital they said I wasn’t pregnant all the nausea medication in the world couldn’t keep any of my heart meds down no food nothing so I smoked (and got it from a owner of a dispensary) because I was willing to try anything to get food in my stomache and was in the process of getting my medical. Card… So long story short I smoked called my counselor at my intensive outpatient and we did a 24 hour relapse prevention sheet and session and everything was fine never touched anything again.
So now my ob has said that a case worker will be there as soon as I give birth
Now I’m worried because if the baby is born in withdrawls will the case worker take him because I’m on the sub and Colonopin? I’m going to taper off the Colonopin slowly after a month and be off a month or two before birth but sub I’d rather stay on and me and the baby be safe. But now I’m so scared.
The specialist I saw was amazing she has experience deliveringg baby’s addicted to substances and she was no judgmental and my ob had me in tears because I’m on subutext and anxiety meds. I called the specialist and they do accept patients but it has to he referred by my ob I go to now and I don’t know how to ask my ob to refer me I can’t say I don’t like u she will just tell me to find another regular on not the one I want to go to.. I just don’t want someone so judgmental ruining such a special day
So I guess I need to know how to ask her to refer me to the specialist that explained everything and made me feel very comfortable!!