Author: sweet16

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:01 pm

OMG! I am PISSED! Well, I am over it now…. BUT as you all know I am looking for the right Naturopath doc. I had an appt last week and 2 this week w/ 3 different Docs. Hoping to find one that has experience with addiction and specifically opiate detox and one I feel comfortable with. I have been puting out a great deal of money & effort, Last Friday, I deceded to cancel the appointment I had today because she is the one with the least experience, actually no experience with opiate detox. Monday the receptionest called and asked "Whyyyyyyy are you cancelling!??? The Doctor is so looking forward to working with you. She has some great Ideas and a good plan for how she’s going to treat you!!" I told her that I am putting out a lot of money and I am really looking for a doctor that has experience blah blah. I am not rich but I really want to get off heroin and I want the best chance at success. So She talked me into keeping the appointment, against my better judgement. I had looked on their website and saw a photo of the doctor and I instantly got a negative response in my body. WELL, Let me just say, this fucking idiot so called doctor, asked me some questions and basically "perscribed" me all the herbs and minerals I am ALREADY taking. Only she wanted me to buy HER product….She told me to exercize and eat right..DUH! I already do… ANd, if she actually read my intake questionaire, she would already know I am a healthy eater….She gave me a paper on "how to make a ginger detox bath" I could have got that online in the same place WHERE SHE found it. SHe basically wasted 90 min. of my prescious time AND $300 of my hard earned dollars. SHe could not complete a single thought. She could/did not even complete 75% of her sentances. SHe spoke impproper english. She acted nervous and very uncomfortable in her own skin. WHAT A DISASTER!
I HIGHLY recommend that yaou all LISTEN to your inner voice. YOUR GUT instinct from now on. I DEFINITELY KNOW to listen to my gut, EVERY time now. It was a VERY expensive lesson I learned today. Anyway I went ahead and agreed to make a follow up with her just to get out of there w/o having to decline and listen to any more of her quackery. I Immediately called and cancelled my appointment once I got home. She answered and I politely cancelled but I KNOW she could hear the discust in my voice. In fact I was rather short and already discusted as I was paying her. I will go to my last doctor on Friday which its only $175… Man..all that I have put been going thru I sure hope the detox gods are good to me and make this a speedy withdrawl/detox. I was so stressed I actually took an 1/8 xanax to calm down….but I didnt use H…
Going to bed early and fporget this day ever happened. I had a series of unfortunate events…ha ha but I survived and I will share tomorrow…(unless I actually manage to forget tee hee)

Author: sweet16

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:01 pm

OMG! I am PISSED! Well, I am over it now…. BUT as you all know I am looking for the right Naturopath doc. I had an appt last week and 2 this week w/ 3 different Docs. Hoping to find one that has experience with addiction and specifically opiate detox and one I feel comfortable with. I have been puting out a great deal of money & effort, Last Friday, I deceded to cancel the appointment I had today because she is the one with the least experience, actually no experience with opiate detox. Monday the receptionest called and asked "Whyyyyyyy are you cancelling!??? The Doctor is so looking forward to working with you. She has some great Ideas and a good plan for how she’s going to treat you!!" I told her that I am putting out a lot of money and I am really looking for a doctor that has experience blah blah. I am not rich but I really want to get off heroin and I want the best chance at success. So She talked me into keeping the appointment, against my better judgement. I had looked on their website and saw a photo of the doctor and I instantly got a negative response in my body. WELL, Let me just say, this fucking idiot so called doctor, asked me some questions and basically "perscribed" me all the herbs and minerals I am ALREADY taking. Only she wanted me to buy HER product….She told me to exercize and eat right..DUH! I already do… ANd, if she actually read my intake questionaire, she would already know I am a healthy eater….She gave me a paper on "how to make a ginger detox bath" I could have got that online in the same place WHERE SHE found it. SHe basically wasted 90 min. of my prescious time AND $300 of my hard earned dollars. SHe could not complete a single thought. She could/did not even complete 75% of her sentances. SHe spoke impproper english. She acted nervous and very uncomfortable in her own skin. WHAT A DISASTER!
I HIGHLY recommend that yaou all LISTEN to your inner voice. YOUR GUT instinct from now on. I DEFINITELY KNOW to listen to my gut, EVERY time now. It was a VERY expensive lesson I learned today. Anyway I went ahead and agreed to make a follow up with her just to get out of there w/o having to decline and listen to any more of her quackery. I Immediately called and cancelled my appointment once I got home. She answered and I politely cancelled but I KNOW she could hear the discust in my voice. In fact I was rather short and already discusted as I was paying her. I will go to my last doctor on Friday which its only $175… Man..all that I have put been going thru I sure hope the detox gods are good to me and make this a speedy withdrawl/detox. I was so stressed I actually took an 1/8 xanax to calm down….but I didnt use H…
Going to bed early and fporget this day ever happened. I had a series of unfortunate events…ha ha but I survived and I will share tomorrow…(unless I actually manage to forget tee hee)

Author: tinydancer

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:16 pm

^ I got to a blue belt in karate. Many moons ago.. My Dad made me, he wanted to make sure I could kick some ass. LOL

So.. using dreams. Want to hear my recurring "using" dream? It has a back story and everything. Goes something like this:

(This is real life, not a dream..)
I think it was 2003, my husband (boyfriend at the time) and I just had dinner with my Dad and parted ways with some take out, Thai food to be exact. On our way home we stopped to re-up and get our high on. Between the dealer meet and our house, we got pulled over. I had a gram of dope in my pocket when I saw the lights behind us. I reached in, pulled it out and very slyly slipped it under my floor mat, in front of me. In hindsight, this was pretty dumb but I had to think quick and I was pretty young and not experienced in these types of situations. So, I "cleverly" put the dope under my passenger floor mat and place the take out food back on top of the mat, between my feet, where it had been before. We get pulled over, not just by any cop, but by a K-9 unit. WHAT! I couldn’t believe it..

So, I guess we looked like we were up to no good? Officer asks if we have anything in the car, we say no, course not.. blah blah blah. He says "great, do you mind if we let the dog search the car?" Again.. WHAT! Um.. I guess so. We get out and they bring the dog over.. Dog goes in and does his things.. nothing around the car, nothing in the back seat.. Dog starts acting all weird near my passenger floor mat.

Dog barks and squirms a bit.. cop is interested in what’s happening. Then, dog gets distracted by my Thai take out!! WHAT?! I kid you not.. dog started to dig at the take out bag (sitting DIRECTLY ABOVE my heroin) and the cops pulls back on the dog to bring him out of the car. To this day, I think the dog totally smelled our shit, but the officer-handler-whatever assumed he was acting naughty trying to eat our leftovers. The officers apologized for ruining our take out and let us on our way. WHAT?!

So.. my dream.

My recurring dream is that I wake up from my sleep and remember that I have a gram of dope under my floor mat. It feels so real. I am walking to my car, opening the door, going under the mat.. and ta da!! There it is. Because this all actually happened, it is a double mind fuck. It always takes me a minute to snap out of this one. The others I can handle now.. this one is different.

Anyway, that’s the first time I’ve ever talked about this particular dream. Wow.

Author: tinydancer

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:16 pm

^ I got to a blue belt in karate. Many moons ago.. My Dad made me, he wanted to make sure I could kick some ass. LOL

So.. using dreams. Want to hear my recurring "using" dream? It has a back story and everything. Goes something like this:

(This is real life, not a dream..)
I think it was 2003, my husband (boyfriend at the time) and I just had dinner with my Dad and parted ways with some take out, Thai food to be exact. On our way home we stopped to re-up and get our high on. Between the dealer meet and our house, we got pulled over. I had a gram of dope in my pocket when I saw the lights behind us. I reached in, pulled it out and very slyly slipped it under my floor mat, in front of me. In hindsight, this was pretty dumb but I had to think quick and I was pretty young and not experienced in these types of situations. So, I "cleverly" put the dope under my passenger floor mat and place the take out food back on top of the mat, between my feet, where it had been before. We get pulled over, not just by any cop, but by a K-9 unit. WHAT! I couldn’t believe it..

So, I guess we looked like we were up to no good? Officer asks if we have anything in the car, we say no, course not.. blah blah blah. He says "great, do you mind if we let the dog search the car?" Again.. WHAT! Um.. I guess so. We get out and they bring the dog over.. Dog goes in and does his things.. nothing around the car, nothing in the back seat.. Dog starts acting all weird near my passenger floor mat.

Dog barks and squirms a bit.. cop is interested in what’s happening. Then, dog gets distracted by my Thai take out!! WHAT?! I kid you not.. dog started to dig at the take out bag (sitting DIRECTLY ABOVE my heroin) and the cops pulls back on the dog to bring him out of the car. To this day, I think the dog totally smelled our shit, but the officer-handler-whatever assumed he was acting naughty trying to eat our leftovers. The officers apologized for ruining our take out and let us on our way. WHAT?!

So.. my dream.

My recurring dream is that I wake up from my sleep and remember that I have a gram of dope under my floor mat. It feels so real. I am walking to my car, opening the door, going under the mat.. and ta da!! There it is. Because this all actually happened, it is a double mind fuck. It always takes me a minute to snap out of this one. The others I can handle now.. this one is different.

Anyway, that’s the first time I’ve ever talked about this particular dream. Wow.

Author: pat_d

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:15 am

The films should dissolve alot easier than the pills did….i mean, films dissolve almost instantly in your mouth

…doing a liquid taper is pretty genuis…..i been on heroin/meth/subs so long now i dont know what it will be like…i can get as many detox meds from my Dr as i need….alot of people in my area are doing good on the vivatrol shots …..that would be the ultimate goal….

Author: pat_d

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:15 am

The films should dissolve alot easier than the pills did….i mean, films dissolve almost instantly in your mouth

…doing a liquid taper is pretty genuis…..i been on heroin/meth/subs so long now i dont know what it will be like…i can get as many detox meds from my Dr as i need….alot of people in my area are doing good on the vivatrol shots …..that would be the ultimate goal….

Author: NYG

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:58 pm

Hi all! At lunch right now, still in Minni….cold as a witches titty….Day 9. Today has been the best by far since I’ve stopped. I got 9 HOURS sleep last night, which is probably the reason. I got to the hotel, ate, watched Family Guy, and fell asleep….just like a normal person! No RLS, until about 3 am, took a Xanax, and went right back to sleep. My downs aren’t as low today and my highs aren’t as high, like I’m starting to level out. Hopefully this continues. It’s when I’m home that’s hard, but I have a feeling this weekend will be better than last.

Yeah, Friday night, I actually had the blue in my hand and paced back and forth for about 5-10 minutes deciding whether to pop half of it and realized the longer I thought about it, the more likely I’d say f*ck it and eat it, so I just said "not tonight." My friends aren’t trying to screw me up, they don’t even know I was wding all week. They asked me what the f*ck I was doing pacing and staring at the pill. I just told them I’m cutting down. My best friend has this bizarre ability to only take oxy on weekends, for about a decade now.

Supplements I was taking was 1 a day multi-vitamin, Super B-Complex (with the ridiculously high dv%), Liquid Sublingual B12, pure Glutamine powder with water at night, and regular high protein food like chicken or fish for amino acids. Stuff that’s easy on the stomach. Got to get back to work, thanks so much!

Author: NYG

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:58 pm

Hi all! At lunch right now, still in Minni….cold as a witches titty….Day 9. Today has been the best by far since I’ve stopped. I got 9 HOURS sleep last night, which is probably the reason. I got to the hotel, ate, watched Family Guy, and fell asleep….just like a normal person! No RLS, until about 3 am, took a Xanax, and went right back to sleep. My downs aren’t as low today and my highs aren’t as high, like I’m starting to level out. Hopefully this continues. It’s when I’m home that’s hard, but I have a feeling this weekend will be better than last.

Yeah, Friday night, I actually had the blue in my hand and paced back and forth for about 5-10 minutes deciding whether to pop half of it and realized the longer I thought about it, the more likely I’d say f*ck it and eat it, so I just said "not tonight." My friends aren’t trying to screw me up, they don’t even know I was wding all week. They asked me what the f*ck I was doing pacing and staring at the pill. I just told them I’m cutting down. My best friend has this bizarre ability to only take oxy on weekends, for about a decade now.

Supplements I was taking was 1 a day multi-vitamin, Super B-Complex (with the ridiculously high dv%), Liquid Sublingual B12, pure Glutamine powder with water at night, and regular high protein food like chicken or fish for amino acids. Stuff that’s easy on the stomach. Got to get back to work, thanks so much!

Author: MannyZ

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:27 pm

Thanks guys,
I’ll keep you updated on how I am doing.

DeadSexy, thanks for the PM, will do !
HorseGal, thanks for the WISDOM, very much appreciated

Last night, it was 24 hours after my last dose, when I went to bed at about 11:30 pm. I went to sleep fine, but woke up in the middle of the night sometime with restless arms and legs, and just couldn’t get comfortable. So, I took a .25 mg dose, somewhere around 28 hours after my last dose I assume (I don’t keep an alarm clock in my room anymore, bright red light is a no-no for me during withdrawal/tapering, and I didnt check the time on my ipod -> no phone either, the cops took it).

My sentence is going to be 6 months, but technically, only 2 months. Basically, it is split up into three Phases, each 2 months long. Phase I, I will be incarcerated, in a program taught by an Ex-Marine. It will be boot camp style, and this is a big factor in wanting to have 3 weeks to reach equilibrium. Supposedly, having breakfast at 4 am, lunch at 10 am, and dinner at 4 pm. There will be a lot of marching, drug education / AA meetings and whatnot. I assume the majority of people in the program will have drug-related charges, looking to lower their sentences. Phase II, I will be allowed to sleep at home, but must report at 8am every morning. Phase III, I assume, will be a little bit easier but very similar to the second phase, being allowed to sleep at home, getting ready to get out in the real world, life outside of the program, etc. It won’t be as physically exhausting as a Marine boot camp would be, as people in the program are going to be trying to quit meth, PCP, crack, heroin, and are not going to be the most physically fit people in the world. However, I think will probably be as tough for a drug addict as regular marine boot camp would be for a person wanting to be a marine. We’ll see, based on the articles I’ve read, people have said it is a life changing experience. I hope so!

-Manny

-Manny

Author: MannyZ

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:27 pm

Thanks guys,
I’ll keep you updated on how I am doing.

DeadSexy, thanks for the PM, will do !
HorseGal, thanks for the WISDOM, very much appreciated

Last night, it was 24 hours after my last dose, when I went to bed at about 11:30 pm. I went to sleep fine, but woke up in the middle of the night sometime with restless arms and legs, and just couldn’t get comfortable. So, I took a .25 mg dose, somewhere around 28 hours after my last dose I assume (I don’t keep an alarm clock in my room anymore, bright red light is a no-no for me during withdrawal/tapering, and I didnt check the time on my ipod -> no phone either, the cops took it).

My sentence is going to be 6 months, but technically, only 2 months. Basically, it is split up into three Phases, each 2 months long. Phase I, I will be incarcerated, in a program taught by an Ex-Marine. It will be boot camp style, and this is a big factor in wanting to have 3 weeks to reach equilibrium. Supposedly, having breakfast at 4 am, lunch at 10 am, and dinner at 4 pm. There will be a lot of marching, drug education / AA meetings and whatnot. I assume the majority of people in the program will have drug-related charges, looking to lower their sentences. Phase II, I will be allowed to sleep at home, but must report at 8am every morning. Phase III, I assume, will be a little bit easier but very similar to the second phase, being allowed to sleep at home, getting ready to get out in the real world, life outside of the program, etc. It won’t be as physically exhausting as a Marine boot camp would be, as people in the program are going to be trying to quit meth, PCP, crack, heroin, and are not going to be the most physically fit people in the world. However, I think will probably be as tough for a drug addict as regular marine boot camp would be for a person wanting to be a marine. We’ll see, based on the articles I’ve read, people have said it is a life changing experience. I hope so!

-Manny

-Manny