Author: zesty

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:32 pm

lol i serously dont get how ppl can take 8 mill of suboxone after not doing it for a week and not get fucked up. i can take one or 2 mill a day for a week and get high for like 6-8 hrs evryday. if i take anymore than that i just feel like complete ass. the day i stopped doing 30s i did a mill of sub like 6 hrs after my last 30 and got soooo f ed up. that was the first time i did subs in a long time but after i smoked some weed i was having like visual and auditory hallucinations for like 6 hours. lol u can spend ten bucks and get high for like 2 weeks lool.

Author: zesty

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:32 pm

lol i serously dont get how ppl can take 8 mill of suboxone after not doing it for a week and not get fucked up. i can take one or 2 mill a day for a week and get high for like 6-8 hrs evryday. if i take anymore than that i just feel like complete ass. the day i stopped doing 30s i did a mill of sub like 6 hrs after my last 30 and got soooo f ed up. that was the first time i did subs in a long time but after i smoked some weed i was having like visual and auditory hallucinations for like 6 hours. lol u can spend ten bucks and get high for like 2 weeks lool.

Author: zesty

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:57 pm

im new to this forum and probably wont be posting here too too much longer kuz its kind of depressing and a waste of time for me because im not physically addicted to any opiates anymore and never had to much of a problem with them. im a rec drug user but in the past been addicted to a number of things but always seem to get out of it. everyone knows when they going overboard with sumthing but they just keep doing it anyway and ino how that goes. but anyway ive found that there is just somehting about psychadellics that make quitting a bad habbit sooo much easier. I feel whenever i trip its just soo clear to me between right wrong , neccessary and unessecay. im telling u if all else fails just take a good dose of acid (or mushrooms whatever) and trust me u wont need to look it will confront you. Ino its made me feel like a selfish piece of shit at points in my life and it just feels so good, sometimes u just need a slap in the face. (ino everybody is different bla balbal but this has worked for me and many other people that i know.)

Author: zesty

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:57 pm

im new to this forum and probably wont be posting here too too much longer kuz its kind of depressing and a waste of time for me because im not physically addicted to any opiates anymore and never had to much of a problem with them. im a rec drug user but in the past been addicted to a number of things but always seem to get out of it. everyone knows when they going overboard with sumthing but they just keep doing it anyway and ino how that goes. but anyway ive found that there is just somehting about psychadellics that make quitting a bad habbit sooo much easier. I feel whenever i trip its just soo clear to me between right wrong , neccessary and unessecay. im telling u if all else fails just take a good dose of acid (or mushrooms whatever) and trust me u wont need to look it will confront you. Ino its made me feel like a selfish piece of shit at points in my life and it just feels so good, sometimes u just need a slap in the face. (ino everybody is different bla balbal but this has worked for me and many other people that i know.)

Author: ZeroSub

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:27 pm

Hi Guys and Gals!

I have been on Subutex/Suboxone for a year and a half. Prior to that I had a small pain pill problem. 5-7 5mg Vicodins a day. In hindsight, I probably would have chosen to just quit the Vicodins, but I didn’t know then what I know now.

I have been reading a lot of information on this forum about the liquid taper. I decided to give it a try today. I was already down to .5 mg but skipping days was still too difficult. So…

I mixed up a solution of 2 mg Subutex pill to 10 mL water. When it was time for my dose today, I took 2 mL water, or what I HOPE is .4mg of Subutex.

It seemed to work very well! I am on a bit of an accelerated plan, due to the fact that I have a new job coming up, and I’d like to be done by then. There isn’t any pressure from the outside for me to do this. It is simply to goal I have set for myself. I have four weeks, and then I’d like to be done!

So, with four weeks to work with, I plan on staying at .4mg for 10-14 days depending on how I feel, and then going to .2mg.

So, my questions are:

1st) Does my math sound right? I hope so but a double check would be awesome.
2nd) Does anyone have any tips and tricks that others have used with the liquid taper method?

Any other words of encouragement would be appreciated. I am doing well, and not very uncomfortable, but still scared of becoming very uncomfortable…

Author: ZeroSub

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:27 pm

Hi Guys and Gals!

I have been on Subutex/Suboxone for a year and a half. Prior to that I had a small pain pill problem. 5-7 5mg Vicodins a day. In hindsight, I probably would have chosen to just quit the Vicodins, but I didn’t know then what I know now.

I have been reading a lot of information on this forum about the liquid taper. I decided to give it a try today. I was already down to .5 mg but skipping days was still too difficult. So…

I mixed up a solution of 2 mg Subutex pill to 10 mL water. When it was time for my dose today, I took 2 mL water, or what I HOPE is .4mg of Subutex.

It seemed to work very well! I am on a bit of an accelerated plan, due to the fact that I have a new job coming up, and I’d like to be done by then. There isn’t any pressure from the outside for me to do this. It is simply to goal I have set for myself. I have four weeks, and then I’d like to be done!

So, with four weeks to work with, I plan on staying at .4mg for 10-14 days depending on how I feel, and then going to .2mg.

So, my questions are:

1st) Does my math sound right? I hope so but a double check would be awesome.
2nd) Does anyone have any tips and tricks that others have used with the liquid taper method?

Any other words of encouragement would be appreciated. I am doing well, and not very uncomfortable, but still scared of becoming very uncomfortable…

Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:31 pm

Your doctor seems to lack some real Suboxone education. I’d like to steer you to the doctors blog on here. It is full of such great information that could really help you out right now. I still refer back to it sometimes and it helped me get some really good information at the beginning.

Author: MovieMaker1

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:31 pm

Your doctor seems to lack some real Suboxone education. I’d like to steer you to the doctors blog on here. It is full of such great information that could really help you out right now. I still refer back to it sometimes and it helped me get some really good information at the beginning.

Author: blue falcon show

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:39 pm

time to stop this nonsense-so teejay-
yeah , i was on the offensive, and yeah, not all your words, only one sentence got under my skin, and hell yes i take it serious,rather than being as you call it "sensitive" but it seems that you are not getting it where i’m coming from and maybe i am not seeing past to understand yer view, very likely. if i understand you right, since someone is talking smack about subs, that renders them open for one of the most ridiculous comments i’ve ever heard anyone say to an addict in recovery,regardless of days, i’d feel the same if it was on day 4 or day 90. personally, if i were to be at a meeting, aa,nn,ect. and witnessed some dude saying that same statement to someone in that same position, i’m sure i would get up and knock the dude upside the head, regardless to how the conversation got to the point to drive dude to say it… the statement is just wrong on so many levels in the context you’ve pitched it to be, in my opinion. as far as the topics and issues discussed before the "side ways comment" i wasn’t even considering them, i look at it as an excuse to what caused you to say it, and only that, doesn’t mean you were in the right, it just means you choose to cross a line due to your passion of the subject. sounds like you felt dirty was being hypocritical, and if so, there were so many better ways to make yer point without shitting on someones progress while they’re in a very vulnerable state. that has been my point and only that point. i don’t understand why it is so hard for you to get that? what i get from yer posts was "she deserved it"? as much as i would like to drop this, i feel i owe it to others who read this to be very clear and explain my actions, because, as you first suspected, i am not one who makes a habit of getting into these types of insulting exchanges…it struck at my convictions in a way i wasn’t comfortable letting it go, to be honest, i was and am effected by this way more than dirty south was and is, shit, she defended you to me in pm, so you must be worthy? i wouldn’t know yet, and neither do you, i haven’t even posted my position on the topic of discussion, which has been my point all along, just the statement made.
lastly, where i come from, whether someone is at day 1 or 15years, they’re all taking life one day at a time, how much sober time doesn’t mean shit, everyone is equal in recovery, as anyone can fall at any moment, don’t matter if 13 days or 2 years…sounds like you came from experience, i don’t know how you would believe any different? maybe you’ve never attended treatment or meetings? that would explain a lot, i assumed you have.

of course i owe you the respect of hearing your response to this post, shoulda probably did this one in pm, and i hope you see i am not out to cut you off at the knees, just completely offended..lol. maybe it does have something to do with wds,if so, i think it’s more on the lines that i spent the last entire year planning my taper and detox off subs, started many months ago, and i stayed on track as planned, and it’s a big deal for anybody when they can get past the worst of the wds period, whether they jumped off or planned a long grueling grind where it’s on your mind all day every day for months and months, and someone minimizes, devalues, or just shits on your accomplishments. seems to me if anyone had gone through the suboxone wds after being on them for any length, understanding my long drawn out ramble should be very simple to get their head around.. hope this ends the b.s.

Author: blue falcon show

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:39 pm

time to stop this nonsense-so teejay-
yeah , i was on the offensive, and yeah, not all your words, only one sentence got under my skin, and hell yes i take it serious,rather than being as you call it "sensitive" but it seems that you are not getting it where i’m coming from and maybe i am not seeing past to understand yer view, very likely. if i understand you right, since someone is talking smack about subs, that renders them open for one of the most ridiculous comments i’ve ever heard anyone say to an addict in recovery,regardless of days, i’d feel the same if it was on day 4 or day 90. personally, if i were to be at a meeting, aa,nn,ect. and witnessed some dude saying that same statement to someone in that same position, i’m sure i would get up and knock the dude upside the head, regardless to how the conversation got to the point to drive dude to say it… the statement is just wrong on so many levels in the context you’ve pitched it to be, in my opinion. as far as the topics and issues discussed before the "side ways comment" i wasn’t even considering them, i look at it as an excuse to what caused you to say it, and only that, doesn’t mean you were in the right, it just means you choose to cross a line due to your passion of the subject. sounds like you felt dirty was being hypocritical, and if so, there were so many better ways to make yer point without shitting on someones progress while they’re in a very vulnerable state. that has been my point and only that point. i don’t understand why it is so hard for you to get that? what i get from yer posts was "she deserved it"? as much as i would like to drop this, i feel i owe it to others who read this to be very clear and explain my actions, because, as you first suspected, i am not one who makes a habit of getting into these types of insulting exchanges…it struck at my convictions in a way i wasn’t comfortable letting it go, to be honest, i was and am effected by this way more than dirty south was and is, shit, she defended you to me in pm, so you must be worthy? i wouldn’t know yet, and neither do you, i haven’t even posted my position on the topic of discussion, which has been my point all along, just the statement made.
lastly, where i come from, whether someone is at day 1 or 15years, they’re all taking life one day at a time, how much sober time doesn’t mean shit, everyone is equal in recovery, as anyone can fall at any moment, don’t matter if 13 days or 2 years…sounds like you came from experience, i don’t know how you would believe any different? maybe you’ve never attended treatment or meetings? that would explain a lot, i assumed you have.

of course i owe you the respect of hearing your response to this post, shoulda probably did this one in pm, and i hope you see i am not out to cut you off at the knees, just completely offended..lol. maybe it does have something to do with wds,if so, i think it’s more on the lines that i spent the last entire year planning my taper and detox off subs, started many months ago, and i stayed on track as planned, and it’s a big deal for anybody when they can get past the worst of the wds period, whether they jumped off or planned a long grueling grind where it’s on your mind all day every day for months and months, and someone minimizes, devalues, or just shits on your accomplishments. seems to me if anyone had gone through the suboxone wds after being on them for any length, understanding my long drawn out ramble should be very simple to get their head around.. hope this ends the b.s.