Author: Smuckerz

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:50 am

Wow… People like this boil my blood. I’ve got to agree with TeeJay, see this guy for three or four months, stockpile your meds, and just keep tapering down as you have been. A few months from now you’ll have plenty of medication to taper off, and you will only be out 3-4 months of fees for seeing this quack as opposed to 6 months or a years worth. You’ll be ok in the end.

Author: Smuckerz

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:50 am

Wow… People like this boil my blood. I’ve got to agree with TeeJay, see this guy for three or four months, stockpile your meds, and just keep tapering down as you have been. A few months from now you’ll have plenty of medication to taper off, and you will only be out 3-4 months of fees for seeing this quack as opposed to 6 months or a years worth. You’ll be ok in the end.

Author: queenie1959

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:44 am

I can understand it must be frustrating to not be able to get all your answers now. I don’t think you have be be on Subs the rest of your life but it’s up to your doctor to determine how long you will need them & how much.

At least we have something that is helping us. I love it that you said you love spending time with your kids. Let them be your inspiration. Anytime you are tempted, think of them.

Let’s keep in touch. I’m interested in how your doctor is going to work with you.

Queenie

Author: queenie1959

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:44 am

I can understand it must be frustrating to not be able to get all your answers now. I don’t think you have be be on Subs the rest of your life but it’s up to your doctor to determine how long you will need them & how much.

At least we have something that is helping us. I love it that you said you love spending time with your kids. Let them be your inspiration. Anytime you are tempted, think of them.

Let’s keep in touch. I’m interested in how your doctor is going to work with you.

Queenie

Author: Salem13

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:45 pm

And could I be ANY more emotional!??? One of my told favorite bands has a song called "Soul Doubt" which I have literally heard a million plus times and for some reason this one lyric just reached out and knocked me on my ass….sitting here folding laundry and crying like a child!!!
"A shameless display, wearing a smile full of pain
A frameless Erte, a painting without a signature
She’s waiting for someone to save her
As I pass her by I see Cinderella
She doesn’t fit into the slipper
Like she fits in a bottle of liquor
There’s no one to take her away" -nofx

:-‘( Sheesh. These emotions are rough!!!!!

Author: Salem13

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:45 pm

And could I be ANY more emotional!??? One of my told favorite bands has a song called "Soul Doubt" which I have literally heard a million plus times and for some reason this one lyric just reached out and knocked me on my ass….sitting here folding laundry and crying like a child!!!
"A shameless display, wearing a smile full of pain
A frameless Erte, a painting without a signature
She’s waiting for someone to save her
As I pass her by I see Cinderella
She doesn’t fit into the slipper
Like she fits in a bottle of liquor
There’s no one to take her away" -nofx

:-‘( Sheesh. These emotions are rough!!!!!

Author: suboxdoc

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Agreed! Opioid overdose = itching and nausea (and tiny pupils).

Author: suboxdoc

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Agreed! Opioid overdose = itching and nausea (and tiny pupils).

Author: Scorpiotl

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:21 pm

I went to the Sub Dr. today a new dr not my pain management specialist because she doesnt deal with dependency addiction issues. Anyway story is the Dr. said that I never should have quit taking the sub in December cold turkey and that I needed to take 24mg a day. I had been on between 2=4mg or so day from my pain management dr trying to get all of the methadone out of my system. Anyway I am really confused and feel something s very off. He said that I wasnt sick because of suboxone withdrawal. He said the reason I was so sick was because of the years I spent on methadone and other opiates prior to getting on suboxone this past august. for those that dont know I went cold turkey off December17th a monday. This new Sub Dr. said I need to be on sub for 60 percent of the time I was on other opiates to allow my brain to heal. He also said that I wasnt on enough of a sub dose. I got along fine for the most part on 4mg a day for several months. He is saying that my opiate receptors he said there were 4 MU receptor a mu-a a mu-b etc. anyways he kept me there for over 2 hours and said Igot sick from methadone and everything else that if I had just stayed on suboxone and allowed my brain to heal i would be fine….i mean this is not what i have learned from reading the boards and this forum. I was off of sub for almost a month and had no drive. I was so afraid to take suboxone because i didnt sleep for almost 12 days that i started taking 20mg of hydrocodone a day…i was so afraid to take sub again. I am freaking out now. I havent filled my script. I am going to call my pain management dr monday and ask for a referrall. There is no way in my head why i should be on anymore than2-4mg of sub a day. he wanted me to take 8mg it seemed like right there if he had lhis way. I took 3mg yesterday and 4mg of sub today 2mg in the morning and 2mg after the appointment I was shaking so bad. I want my life back and I want to taper slowly off the sub…..But he would only write me a scrip for 8mg strips and wants me to take them 3 times a day. I have never taken more than4-5mg of sub in a day…..I feel like I was buying a used car or a bill of goods but with my life….I am not a Dr. I know he is….but I think I need to see a new Dr. This Dr. was so insistent and pushy and basically told me I would have to be on subs for at least 4 years. Than they gave me a drug test and said that if I couldnt afford it which I cant right now because it will cost $175 not to pay it and they will mark it down to $99 and than if i dont pay it they will send me 2 bills but that it wont go on my credit report or goto collections….I mean everything was very odd..Im so confused but by taking 4mg of sub today after taking 2mg yesterday and taking 20mg of norco the past week….I am so upset if I got my tolerance down so low and worked so hard i just couldnt handle the depression and pain and lack of motivation…honestly i wouldnt have been able to go back to school…..Im sorry i am rambling i am so upset….i need to find a DR who will listen to me and help me rather than just write me script.

Author: Scorpiotl

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:21 pm

I went to the Sub Dr. today a new dr not my pain management specialist because she doesnt deal with dependency addiction issues. Anyway story is the Dr. said that I never should have quit taking the sub in December cold turkey and that I needed to take 24mg a day. I had been on between 2=4mg or so day from my pain management dr trying to get all of the methadone out of my system. Anyway I am really confused and feel something s very off. He said that I wasnt sick because of suboxone withdrawal. He said the reason I was so sick was because of the years I spent on methadone and other opiates prior to getting on suboxone this past august. for those that dont know I went cold turkey off December17th a monday. This new Sub Dr. said I need to be on sub for 60 percent of the time I was on other opiates to allow my brain to heal. He also said that I wasnt on enough of a sub dose. I got along fine for the most part on 4mg a day for several months. He is saying that my opiate receptors he said there were 4 MU receptor a mu-a a mu-b etc. anyways he kept me there for over 2 hours and said Igot sick from methadone and everything else that if I had just stayed on suboxone and allowed my brain to heal i would be fine….i mean this is not what i have learned from reading the boards and this forum. I was off of sub for almost a month and had no drive. I was so afraid to take suboxone because i didnt sleep for almost 12 days that i started taking 20mg of hydrocodone a day…i was so afraid to take sub again. I am freaking out now. I havent filled my script. I am going to call my pain management dr monday and ask for a referrall. There is no way in my head why i should be on anymore than2-4mg of sub a day. he wanted me to take 8mg it seemed like right there if he had lhis way. I took 3mg yesterday and 4mg of sub today 2mg in the morning and 2mg after the appointment I was shaking so bad. I want my life back and I want to taper slowly off the sub…..But he would only write me a scrip for 8mg strips and wants me to take them 3 times a day. I have never taken more than4-5mg of sub in a day…..I feel like I was buying a used car or a bill of goods but with my life….I am not a Dr. I know he is….but I think I need to see a new Dr. This Dr. was so insistent and pushy and basically told me I would have to be on subs for at least 4 years. Than they gave me a drug test and said that if I couldnt afford it which I cant right now because it will cost $175 not to pay it and they will mark it down to $99 and than if i dont pay it they will send me 2 bills but that it wont go on my credit report or goto collections….I mean everything was very odd..Im so confused but by taking 4mg of sub today after taking 2mg yesterday and taking 20mg of norco the past week….I am so upset if I got my tolerance down so low and worked so hard i just couldnt handle the depression and pain and lack of motivation…honestly i wouldnt have been able to go back to school…..Im sorry i am rambling i am so upset….i need to find a DR who will listen to me and help me rather than just write me script.