Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:36 am

Hey yeah so far it seems really good. Almost no side-effects! That is really profound considering my doctor warned me of how intolerable the meds are compared to SS/SNRI’s. The only possible side-effects have been slight sweating, and the pins-and-needles thing like you said. It hardly makes me drowsy at all. But that’s not great considering I’ve also come off 2 other anti-depressants (Agomelatine & Mirtazapine/Remeron) that made me really sleepy. So I haven’t been able to sleep as easily as before.

It’s been about a week since I started, and over the last 2 days the mood has definitely lifted. I’m going to have to watch that it doesn’t get lifted "too" much, being bipolar and all, as I feel that unchecked it’s a strong enough anti-depressant to switch me to mania. I might tell my doc I don’t want the dose increased any further, even though I’m only on 75mg, and he wanted me on 150mg eventually.

For the last month I’d been pretty much a hermit, avoiding social situations, avoiding phone calls, hardly swimming … constantly fighting and isolating myself from my partner (she refused to budge though). It’s good to feel like I can call my friends again, and actually study, and feel like I’m performing okay at work, and not feel like the rest of my life’s gunna be a drag.

It’s early days though. Anti-deps often poop-out on me. The only thing that gives me hope Dosulepin’s different is that most online reports say "I took Dosulepin for 15+ years" … whereas SSRI’s have most people jumping off within months / a few years.

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:36 am

Hey yeah so far it seems really good. Almost no side-effects! That is really profound considering my doctor warned me of how intolerable the meds are compared to SS/SNRI’s. The only possible side-effects have been slight sweating, and the pins-and-needles thing like you said. It hardly makes me drowsy at all. But that’s not great considering I’ve also come off 2 other anti-depressants (Agomelatine & Mirtazapine/Remeron) that made me really sleepy. So I haven’t been able to sleep as easily as before.

It’s been about a week since I started, and over the last 2 days the mood has definitely lifted. I’m going to have to watch that it doesn’t get lifted "too" much, being bipolar and all, as I feel that unchecked it’s a strong enough anti-depressant to switch me to mania. I might tell my doc I don’t want the dose increased any further, even though I’m only on 75mg, and he wanted me on 150mg eventually.

For the last month I’d been pretty much a hermit, avoiding social situations, avoiding phone calls, hardly swimming … constantly fighting and isolating myself from my partner (she refused to budge though). It’s good to feel like I can call my friends again, and actually study, and feel like I’m performing okay at work, and not feel like the rest of my life’s gunna be a drag.

It’s early days though. Anti-deps often poop-out on me. The only thing that gives me hope Dosulepin’s different is that most online reports say "I took Dosulepin for 15+ years" … whereas SSRI’s have most people jumping off within months / a few years.

Author: Jameskenneth

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:04 am

Just kinda fell like crap cause I know I should not risk my sub program. Thanks for your post. I do take bus bar for anxitey and it helps alittle. Thanks for your support

Author: Jameskenneth

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:04 am

Just kinda fell like crap cause I know I should not risk my sub program. Thanks for your post. I do take bus bar for anxitey and it helps alittle. Thanks for your support

Author: chubbybaby82

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:50 am

Sorry i did not clarify, but I have been off of suboxone for 8 months. 8 months and 4 days today. Thanks for the responses.

Author: chubbybaby82

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:50 am

Sorry i did not clarify, but I have been off of suboxone for 8 months. 8 months and 4 days today. Thanks for the responses.

Author: Barelyboxed

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:31 am

Hey Zy! I agree with the others. If you continue Suboxone, especially at the kind of doses you’re taking now, you’ll wind up with an opiate tolerance and physical dependence much more severe than where you were at 30-60mg of oxycodone a day.
There is another consideration, however. That is, the degree of obsession or psychological dependence you already have in place. That is something that is harder to measure than the physical side of addiction. And it is something that tends to become worse over time, and with each attempt to quit, in my opinion. So, for some people with that severe obsession or multiple failed attempts to quit, even if they don’t take all that high of dose of opiate, Sub might be the way to go.
Anyway, I agree that you’re nausea/vomiting is likely due to your Sub dose being way too high for you. If I were you, I’d stop now. You’ve got enough Sub in your system already that you should not feel any true withdrawals for a good two to three days. If at all possible, I’d ride it out and see if and when it hits. It may not….you may have sort of "bridged" the oxy withdrawals with the Sub. And the Sub may clear your system gradually enough that you don’t suffer at all. That’s obviously the best case scenario.
Other than that, if you do somehow get slammed with withdrawals that you cannot handle, I implore you to take only a very tiny piece of Sub, like 1mg or less, wait an hour and I think you’ll see that a little bit of Sub can go a long way!
Good luck. Please let us know what happens.

Author: Barelyboxed

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:31 am

Hey Zy! I agree with the others. If you continue Suboxone, especially at the kind of doses you’re taking now, you’ll wind up with an opiate tolerance and physical dependence much more severe than where you were at 30-60mg of oxycodone a day.
There is another consideration, however. That is, the degree of obsession or psychological dependence you already have in place. That is something that is harder to measure than the physical side of addiction. And it is something that tends to become worse over time, and with each attempt to quit, in my opinion. So, for some people with that severe obsession or multiple failed attempts to quit, even if they don’t take all that high of dose of opiate, Sub might be the way to go.
Anyway, I agree that you’re nausea/vomiting is likely due to your Sub dose being way too high for you. If I were you, I’d stop now. You’ve got enough Sub in your system already that you should not feel any true withdrawals for a good two to three days. If at all possible, I’d ride it out and see if and when it hits. It may not….you may have sort of "bridged" the oxy withdrawals with the Sub. And the Sub may clear your system gradually enough that you don’t suffer at all. That’s obviously the best case scenario.
Other than that, if you do somehow get slammed with withdrawals that you cannot handle, I implore you to take only a very tiny piece of Sub, like 1mg or less, wait an hour and I think you’ll see that a little bit of Sub can go a long way!
Good luck. Please let us know what happens.

Author: Jeaner

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:17 pm

Ive been lurking and reading on this site for the last couple days….I really dont know what to think right now i am day 5 no subs & today I feel like crap which i knew was going to happen but i keep thinking about who i really am???? Ive been an addict for 13 yrs & ive been with my b/f for 12yrs. He is an amazing person he takes such good care of me and has supported me through everything ive been thru well when he found out about my addiction I never told him he found out and then i lied to his face with my script for subs sitting right in front of me & him that he found in the trash…..for 1 full year i went to the methadone clinic everyday and he didnt know i am not sure how i did that but i did and then my sis finally found me a sub dr and i hid that for another year until he found my scripts in the trash….i didnt know how to tell him, we had only been living together for a few years so i was afraid that he may want my daughter and me to leave because of it. But I was totally wrong should’ve been honest with him up front & told him he was moving in with an addict but I was embarrassed & very ashamed…..Not many people know about my dirty little secret my mom and dad no nothing & I cant tell them they wouldnt understand……So I am wondering does my b/f really no the REAL me?? i dont even no the real me anymore….I dont remember the real me its been so long and ive put all this crap in my body to feel normal for so long I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT NORMAL FEELS LIKE….Normal is this feeling dead inside becuz i feel dead inside right now and i shouldnt!!!! I am wondering will I ever b ok???? Sorry just rambling I dont know what else to do other then to come to this forum and read and write!!!!!

Author: Jeaner

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:17 pm

Ive been lurking and reading on this site for the last couple days….I really dont know what to think right now i am day 5 no subs & today I feel like crap which i knew was going to happen but i keep thinking about who i really am???? Ive been an addict for 13 yrs & ive been with my b/f for 12yrs. He is an amazing person he takes such good care of me and has supported me through everything ive been thru well when he found out about my addiction I never told him he found out and then i lied to his face with my script for subs sitting right in front of me & him that he found in the trash…..for 1 full year i went to the methadone clinic everyday and he didnt know i am not sure how i did that but i did and then my sis finally found me a sub dr and i hid that for another year until he found my scripts in the trash….i didnt know how to tell him, we had only been living together for a few years so i was afraid that he may want my daughter and me to leave because of it. But I was totally wrong should’ve been honest with him up front & told him he was moving in with an addict but I was embarrassed & very ashamed…..Not many people know about my dirty little secret my mom and dad no nothing & I cant tell them they wouldnt understand……So I am wondering does my b/f really no the REAL me?? i dont even no the real me anymore….I dont remember the real me its been so long and ive put all this crap in my body to feel normal for so long I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT NORMAL FEELS LIKE….Normal is this feeling dead inside becuz i feel dead inside right now and i shouldnt!!!! I am wondering will I ever b ok???? Sorry just rambling I dont know what else to do other then to come to this forum and read and write!!!!!