Monthly Archives: December 2012

been on sub 4 months need to get off before spring semester

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Author: Scorpiotl

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:26 am

i have my patch on. I am going to try to get some more from the dr but tomorrow is new years eve. I will call but i dunno how much luck i am going to have. I dont have insurance so I cant goto the ER….my patch is good thru monday….thani will try to get some more its so cold and i think i caught something from being out in the weather packing my stuff the other nite. everything is all messed up but at least i got some sleep 4 hrs last night i was amazed.

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been on sub 4 months need to get off before spring semester

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Author: Scorpiotl

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:26 am

i have my patch on. I am going to try to get some more from the dr but tomorrow is new years eve. I will call but i dunno how much luck i am going to have. I dont have insurance so I cant goto the ER….my patch is good thru monday….thani will try to get some more its so cold and i think i caught something from being out in the weather packing my stuff the other nite. everything is all messed up but at least i got some sleep 4 hrs last night i was amazed.

S

Cravings before and after Suboxone

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Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:35 am

Lillyval wrote:
For me, the cravings were worse after I went off Sub. Or maybe it only seemed worse because it was more recent than the cravings I had before I went on Sub.

The thing is, I don’t know if Sub made it worse, or if what they say in NA is true, that your disease continues to progress even when you are in recovery. So if you relapse you don’t pick up where you left off, but where you would have been if you never stopped using. There seems to be no scientific basis for this, but from what I have witnessed and what I have experienced in my own life, it sure as hell seems to be true.

One thing I didn’t expect is that I actually craved Sub as much as I craved other drugs. You said this before, TJ, and I agree, that I often feel that Sub has somehow made my addiction WORSE. Of course, this is totally subjective and purely a biased opinion. There is really no way of knowing where I would be now if I had never gone on Sub. This thing is, when I used I had my ups and downs. I got high, I came down, I got high, I got sick, etc. Once I got on Subs I had opiates on my receptors 24/7 – for 2+ years! Somehow I feel THAT changed the game for me.

***your disease continues to progress even when you are in recovery. So if you relapse you don’t pick up where you left off, but where you would have been if you never stopped ***

although my "personal" experience with this, is limited, I have experienced it…. the thing that SCARES THE CRAP OUTTA ME,,
is I’ve seen it right before my VERY EYES,,,,
and the two people that come to mind, they passed away,,,,,,,, on a relapse/slip whatever you want to call it. one had 18 mos of really good ‘solid’ recovery,,,,,
the other had almost FIVE YEARS!!!
this is soooo scary to me,,,,
and I don’t really have a "point”
Im just always trying to think of ways to make sure it doesn’t happen to ME

***This thing is, when I used I had my ups and downs. I got high, I came down, I got high, I got sick, etc. Once I got on Subs I had opiates on my receptors 24/7 – for 2+ years!***

Until I just read this, I had NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS,,,,
even with everything I’ve read here……….

very, very good point. . . . Scary,,, yes….

I know deep down, suboxone was for sure the right choice for me at the time…. I was headed one of the ‘two’ places us, ‘textbook-type’ addicts end up…….

I’m not afraid to admit, the thought of being totally off suboxone, is scary to me,,,, for ONE, becuase it’s the ONLY thing that worked, out of sooooo many things tried…..
another, becuase of the ‘progression’ talked about above, remembering where I was when I FOUND suboxone,,, and the fact it’s been almost two years ago,,, jeez —– all I see is a cardboard box and a blanky

thanks for bringing this up—-
It’s for SURE a valid point

Cravings before and after Suboxone

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Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:35 am

Lillyval wrote:
For me, the cravings were worse after I went off Sub. Or maybe it only seemed worse because it was more recent than the cravings I had before I went on Sub.

The thing is, I don’t know if Sub made it worse, or if what they say in NA is true, that your disease continues to progress even when you are in recovery. So if you relapse you don’t pick up where you left off, but where you would have been if you never stopped using. There seems to be no scientific basis for this, but from what I have witnessed and what I have experienced in my own life, it sure as hell seems to be true.

One thing I didn’t expect is that I actually craved Sub as much as I craved other drugs. You said this before, TJ, and I agree, that I often feel that Sub has somehow made my addiction WORSE. Of course, this is totally subjective and purely a biased opinion. There is really no way of knowing where I would be now if I had never gone on Sub. This thing is, when I used I had my ups and downs. I got high, I came down, I got high, I got sick, etc. Once I got on Subs I had opiates on my receptors 24/7 – for 2+ years! Somehow I feel THAT changed the game for me.

***your disease continues to progress even when you are in recovery. So if you relapse you don’t pick up where you left off, but where you would have been if you never stopped ***

although my "personal" experience with this, is limited, I have experienced it…. the thing that SCARES THE CRAP OUTTA ME,,
is I’ve seen it right before my VERY EYES,,,,
and the two people that come to mind, they passed away,,,,,,,, on a relapse/slip whatever you want to call it. one had 18 mos of really good ‘solid’ recovery,,,,,
the other had almost FIVE YEARS!!!
this is soooo scary to me,,,,
and I don’t really have a "point”
Im just always trying to think of ways to make sure it doesn’t happen to ME

***This thing is, when I used I had my ups and downs. I got high, I came down, I got high, I got sick, etc. Once I got on Subs I had opiates on my receptors 24/7 – for 2+ years!***

Until I just read this, I had NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS,,,,
even with everything I’ve read here……….

very, very good point. . . . Scary,,, yes….

I know deep down, suboxone was for sure the right choice for me at the time…. I was headed one of the ‘two’ places us, ‘textbook-type’ addicts end up…….

I’m not afraid to admit, the thought of being totally off suboxone, is scary to me,,,, for ONE, becuase it’s the ONLY thing that worked, out of sooooo many things tried…..
another, becuase of the ‘progression’ talked about above, remembering where I was when I FOUND suboxone,,, and the fact it’s been almost two years ago,,, jeez —– all I see is a cardboard box and a blanky

thanks for bringing this up—-
It’s for SURE a valid point

Headaches

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Author: TeeJay

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:38 pm

Interesting you say that. I only start to get a ‘bupe’ headache when my dose passes the ceiling effect. In fact, a few side-effects kick in when my dose extends over it. I’ve found that since splitting my dose into morning and evening doses, I don’t get headaches anymore.

Headaches

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Author: TeeJay

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:38 pm

Interesting you say that. I only start to get a ‘bupe’ headache when my dose passes the ceiling effect. In fact, a few side-effects kick in when my dose extends over it. I’ve found that since splitting my dose into morning and evening doses, I don’t get headaches anymore.

Exploding Head Syndrome anyone????

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Author: honeybun

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:11 pm

I actually always thought this was just a dream sensation. I have always had sleep issues, sleep walking, sleep eating and night terrors. I think I have noticed this sensation more since starting suboxone, but my thoughts are I actually "sleep" now. Before I started treatment in March and after years of narcotic abuse, I thought I was sleeping. I sleep more sound than I have my entire life. The first time I really felt that loud bang in my head was about 5 months ago, after being on Subs for a few months, and it scared the crap out of me. I just attribute it to actually sleeping soundly now. Good to know I am not as crazy as I think I am.LOL

Exploding Head Syndrome anyone????

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Author: honeybun

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:11 pm

I actually always thought this was just a dream sensation. I have always had sleep issues, sleep walking, sleep eating and night terrors. I think I have noticed this sensation more since starting suboxone, but my thoughts are I actually "sleep" now. Before I started treatment in March and after years of narcotic abuse, I thought I was sleeping. I sleep more sound than I have my entire life. The first time I really felt that loud bang in my head was about 5 months ago, after being on Subs for a few months, and it scared the crap out of me. I just attribute it to actually sleeping soundly now. Good to know I am not as crazy as I think I am.LOL