Methadone Issues

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:29 am

cwake18 wrote:

I just don’t know what to do about being so damn sleepy every morning. I was on MMT once before about 2 years ago and had a much lower tolerance. I started on 40mg that time and had euphoria almost all day and know what that’s like, this time around I have a much higher tolerance and have had to increase up to over 100mg now just to hold me and feel ok. I function great at work, but on days off like today, I hate it and almost go insane.

What do you do for work?? is it physical??

I work a physically demanding/manual labor job, and although Im not on methadone, (I once was!! 3+yrs)
If i don’t DO SOMETHING,, I’m tired ALLLLLL DAY.

It could be just that simple, especially if you feel "fine" at work, or on days you do work…….
the ideal thing, OBVIOUSLY is to get a FULL NIGHTS SLEEP
lots of people have found good relief with melatonin,,,,
(to sleep at night, and STAY asleep)
it’s natural and non habit-forming………

maybe try excersising a bit, in the morning, maybe an hour after your dose… see what that does,
I know it makes ME feel better/less tired…
the human body is strange machine, that’s for sure!!!

its funny that I used to sleep ALL THE TIME, on pills/heroin, but NOW, I work like DOG, and only sleep 5-6 hours a night, but
that’s a ""Full night’s sleep"" for me,
any MORE sleep than that, and I’m USELESS…..feel like I have a hangover or something!!!

anyways,
I hope I helped, I don’t know that probably isn’t the answer your looking for……..
but I did try Wink Wink Wink

hang in there, you sound really determined, and like you have a great plan in place Wink

Methadone Issues

Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:29 am

cwake18 wrote:

I just don’t know what to do about being so damn sleepy every morning. I was on MMT once before about 2 years ago and had a much lower tolerance. I started on 40mg that time and had euphoria almost all day and know what that’s like, this time around I have a much higher tolerance and have had to increase up to over 100mg now just to hold me and feel ok. I function great at work, but on days off like today, I hate it and almost go insane.

What do you do for work?? is it physical??

I work a physically demanding/manual labor job, and although Im not on methadone, (I once was!! 3+yrs)
If i don’t DO SOMETHING,, I’m tired ALLLLLL DAY.

It could be just that simple, especially if you feel "fine" at work, or on days you do work…….
the ideal thing, OBVIOUSLY is to get a FULL NIGHTS SLEEP
lots of people have found good relief with melatonin,,,,
(to sleep at night, and STAY asleep)
it’s natural and non habit-forming………

maybe try excersising a bit, in the morning, maybe an hour after your dose… see what that does,
I know it makes ME feel better/less tired…
the human body is strange machine, that’s for sure!!!

its funny that I used to sleep ALL THE TIME, on pills/heroin, but NOW, I work like DOG, and only sleep 5-6 hours a night, but
that’s a ""Full night’s sleep"" for me,
any MORE sleep than that, and I’m USELESS…..feel like I have a hangover or something!!!

anyways,
I hope I helped, I don’t know that probably isn’t the answer your looking for……..
but I did try Wink Wink Wink

hang in there, you sound really determined, and like you have a great plan in place Wink

13 days off sub SCARED

Author: Romeo

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:00 am

I did exactly what TJ said. After I had a little time off of Suboxone, I would look back a few days and realize that I was better than I was a few days ago. Then, as I got a few weeks under my belt, I would look back a week or so and realize how much better I was. During those early days, I was still sucking pavement pretty bad, BUT I was better than I was the previous few days or weeks and this realization was crucial to keeping me on track.

Also, it’s so easy to want to give up and say "eff it", but then I knew I’d just have to go through all that effing nightmare again and there was no way on God’s green earth that I was putting myself through that hell again…..once was enough!!!

During my first week or two of wd, I had anxiety attacks the likes of which I had never encountered before. I would always remind myself that it’s just the wd, it’ll go away and eventually the anxiety would pass. It was extremely uncomfortable, but it does pass.

The emptiness you’re feeling is likely to hang around for a little bit. Right now, your body is trying to remember how to produce its own natural opiates. Your brain will get there, it’s just gonna take some time. Try watching some funny movies or read the thread on this forum called Laughter is the Best Medicine. Laughing will help.

You said, "Maybe I am just not a strong person…." ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? By the time you read this, you’ll be on day 18 of your wd……you’re WAY strong!!! For some of us, wd from Suboxone can be an absolute shit kicking and you’ve survived 18 days!!!! You’re strong as an ox!!!

Don’t give up Cammie. I know you feel like crap, but it will get better. Keep fighting!!!

13 days off sub SCARED

Author: Romeo

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:00 am

I did exactly what TJ said. After I had a little time off of Suboxone, I would look back a few days and realize that I was better than I was a few days ago. Then, as I got a few weeks under my belt, I would look back a week or so and realize how much better I was. During those early days, I was still sucking pavement pretty bad, BUT I was better than I was the previous few days or weeks and this realization was crucial to keeping me on track.

Also, it’s so easy to want to give up and say "eff it", but then I knew I’d just have to go through all that effing nightmare again and there was no way on God’s green earth that I was putting myself through that hell again…..once was enough!!!

During my first week or two of wd, I had anxiety attacks the likes of which I had never encountered before. I would always remind myself that it’s just the wd, it’ll go away and eventually the anxiety would pass. It was extremely uncomfortable, but it does pass.

The emptiness you’re feeling is likely to hang around for a little bit. Right now, your body is trying to remember how to produce its own natural opiates. Your brain will get there, it’s just gonna take some time. Try watching some funny movies or read the thread on this forum called Laughter is the Best Medicine. Laughing will help.

You said, "Maybe I am just not a strong person…." ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? By the time you read this, you’ll be on day 18 of your wd……you’re WAY strong!!! For some of us, wd from Suboxone can be an absolute shit kicking and you’ve survived 18 days!!!! You’re strong as an ox!!!

Don’t give up Cammie. I know you feel like crap, but it will get better. Keep fighting!!!

With doctors like this, it’s no wonder there’s anger

Author: chaimeragiest

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:39 am

I agree with subluv on some aspects. But im not going to try to get banned. I’d much prefer to agree to disagree and maybe discuss some things. Oh and just because someone talks bad about a company doesen’t mean he doesen’t work for them. It’s called a shill. and they are paid/compensated to go out change peoples influences on trends or specific things. And in this case he would make a GREAT shill if i ever seen one. Or it could be the exact opposite. Maybe he is out there to help people. Who knows. I think people have it VERY wrong on this whole recovery thing. When it comes time to get off this stuff alot of people will realize the true terror of this super potent substance.

With doctors like this, it’s no wonder there’s anger

Author: chaimeragiest

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:39 am

I agree with subluv on some aspects. But im not going to try to get banned. I’d much prefer to agree to disagree and maybe discuss some things. Oh and just because someone talks bad about a company doesen’t mean he doesen’t work for them. It’s called a shill. and they are paid/compensated to go out change peoples influences on trends or specific things. And in this case he would make a GREAT shill if i ever seen one. Or it could be the exact opposite. Maybe he is out there to help people. Who knows. I think people have it VERY wrong on this whole recovery thing. When it comes time to get off this stuff alot of people will realize the true terror of this super potent substance.

Liver damage from suboxone

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:39 am

I’ve been on a lot of medications and also had Hep C whilst on Suboxone. And I haven’t found Suboxone to cause me issues with liver enzymes. It’s worth keeping an eye on though because apparently some people got raised ALT’s in the initial studies, but the risk seems to not be that high.

Liver damage from suboxone

Author: TeeJay

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:39 am

I’ve been on a lot of medications and also had Hep C whilst on Suboxone. And I haven’t found Suboxone to cause me issues with liver enzymes. It’s worth keeping an eye on though because apparently some people got raised ALT’s in the initial studies, but the risk seems to not be that high.

Induction next week; any advice?

Author: Occupational Hazard

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:35 am

I started yesterday and so far I’m feeling a lot better than I thought I would. I needed two 8mg but my appointment wasn’t until late morning and I was pretty uncomfortable by then. Shaking pretty bad and all the rest. Was really tired by the end of the day and slept like a rock (with the help of ambien I’m afraid). I had a little headache for awhile after each one and thought my eyes looked glassy-which bothers me as I’m in the medical field and work pretty hard not to look stoned. But it’s better than actually being stoned…so there’s that. I’ve been reading some of the tips on how to properly take it cause it’s a bit tricky but I’m getting the hang of it. So far so good.

‘The gutter is where things get worse faster than you can lower your standards. ‘ Oscar Wilde

Induction next week; any advice?

Author: Occupational Hazard

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:35 am

I started yesterday and so far I’m feeling a lot better than I thought I would. I needed two 8mg but my appointment wasn’t until late morning and I was pretty uncomfortable by then. Shaking pretty bad and all the rest. Was really tired by the end of the day and slept like a rock (with the help of ambien I’m afraid). I had a little headache for awhile after each one and thought my eyes looked glassy-which bothers me as I’m in the medical field and work pretty hard not to look stoned. But it’s better than actually being stoned…so there’s that. I’ve been reading some of the tips on how to properly take it cause it’s a bit tricky but I’m getting the hang of it. So far so good.

‘The gutter is where things get worse faster than you can lower your standards. ‘ Oscar Wilde