Monthly Archives: February 2012

The black sheep=a lonely child=a confused teenager=an addict

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Author: amber4.14.11

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:23 pm

so thursday,makes a week since my teeth got pulled on the bottom…..
Im glad the stitches are coming out, they are ITCHIN!!!!!!
and you know, theyre just beautiful, the lovely black thread in my mouth looks amazing when I speak.
(probably still better than the old broken teeth looked)

ANYWAYS, then I gotta wait about two more weeks, and do one more impression, and my NEW teeth will be MADE…
YAY

this has been a huge ordeal for me. Its gonna be so great to have new teeth, and I went back and forth in my head over and over if I wanted to stop my suboxone, and go on an opiate while I get all this work done. Cuz, right after I get my new bottom teeth made, ALL THE TOP ones are GOING……..
So my sub doc was almost trying to convince me (it seemed like) to go on some kind of pain control med, this entire time while all this is goin on……

But Im gonna make it.
and I dont think the top is gonna hurt quite so bad as the bottom, cuz it seems like the infection is what was hurting so bad. I freaking hope so anyways…….

getting nervous for my son’s surgery on his mouth soon too……
Trying not to be, but thats not quite working out. I cant help but to worry.

looking forward to thursday….
and hoping I see at least some of that damn tax return next week!!!!!

Visting my doctor, i need help

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Author: 604

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:53 pm

sweet16 wrote:
Well every doctor is different. I’d say "come clean" sugar. I mean Doctor gonna find out either way. If you are really only trying to be opiate free and you have a doctor that does not believe that Pot is a "gateway drug" then it should be ok. Did you sign anything saying you would refrain from smoking weed? My doc. never ever tested me for anything not even opiates. However, I live in Ca. and weed is practically legal. I do not know about where you live. Honesty is the best policy. I mean you are in treatment for addiction. Obvioulsy you are not going to be a saint. lol… good luck & best wishes.

x2 my doc said he doesn’t care if i smoke weed… pretty dope really..

?Anyone else at .25mg? Just split my dose into 2 X daily

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Author: Romeo

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:29 am

Hey sweet,

I just wanted you to know that I’ve been following your thread and your progress and that I’m uber excited for you, you are SOOOO close.

You’ve done a super duper taper, you’ve managed your symptoms really well and I’m 99.9% sure that you’re gonna have zip in the way of acute wd. You have put in the hard work and you’re about to reap the reward……congratulations!!!!

Acute and Post Acute Withdrawal – the lowdown.

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Author: sweet16

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:41 am

I am so confused. I think I lost track of where I am at… I thought I was at .25 mg…. But now I think because I am cutting these 2mg strips into………….okay Okay..(analyzing this waaaay too much) I am good. Lol.. Jeeze, I am terrible with fractions and decimals but I googled it and I am at .125mg in the AM and .125mg in the PM, every other night. So this means I am at 1/4 mg. everyother day & 1/8 mg. on the other days. WHEW! I think It is doable at this point. Reading LT comment about feeling the onset after 2 weeks, I believe it, because after a few months of steady tapering every 2 weeks I was hit with a couple weeks of extreme fatigue and depression. (completely foreign to me) It did go away as I started taking DHEA and power walking daily for 20 min. or so. I am a FIRM believer in healthy diet and physical activity daily. We can get thru this for SURE it is just a matter of dealing with a few weeks of less than perfect days. I mean many people in other countries deal with A LOT more on a daily basis with NO end in sight. Surely we can push thru. We have comfort meds, comfortable beds, netflix, MMJ, and this forum, thank goodness. We GOT THIS kids.. Have a great eve. & good luck with it all..

Forum for Pharmaceutical Companies-R.B. – Lots of Insight!

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Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:30 am

This one is funny:

Quote:
In response to the person who inquired about whether or not working with Reckitt Benckiser Pharma is a good decision. Read on and spare yourself the job from hell. You don’t want to work for this company, period. Per people remaining in the company and those that have left, there are allegedly more lawsuits than you can shake a stick at. From waht I’ve heard by way of original C. L.’s who were hired by this company to help them launch their new med Suboxone, they were all hung out to dry and treated beyond disrespect. After employment, almost every promise made to them-was eventually negated, even basic selling tools were denied. The dishonesty and deceit and mistreatment of the original team of reps was beyond description. The situation was despicable by even the lowest of business standards. They couldn’t even get the company to pay speakers that they themselves had developed, without any support whatsoever from the parent company. We were told of physicians who were ready to take them to court for ongoing delay of honoraria payment. The reps were humiliated and apparently, continue on being humiliated. They didn’t even have literature to detail with, no one to handle managed care industry, the lack of customer support was appalling for such a major med and its target market of seriously ill opiate dependents. There was no managed care team, the med was not on any formularly of any kind-it was pathetic. The managed care staff they hired is apparently leaving or being fired as fast as the sales force. Further, there is word that not even the most basic of business plans, bonus or quota plans were in place and what is is changed in the blink of an eye, moment to moment. The term treated beyond indecency comes to mind, after listening to these horror stories from very credible people. There are unbelievable stories of about the abomination of a management team that is ongoing there. One story told was that when the sales force very appropriately/professionally gave feedback on how poorly the management team was performing, they were set up to be ostracized, isolated and run out of their jobs for speaking up. Apparently, per this source, new reps and managers were encouraged and rewarded for ratting out the original team members, if even the slightest mention of the truth of the situation was brought to light to new employees. Due to this, a number of new hires and managers, set out to take out the original team members and thus the hostile workplace turned into a veritable cesspool. All new reps had to do was win brownie points by telling their managers about alleged infractions of senior reps and these reps were sent packing or forced out of their jobs. Its screw or be screwed.

Thanks for that mountainman. These reps are severely messed up. I don’t know if it’s the RB culture or you just gotta be messed up to work in that field? But the RB forum is definitely more crazy than the Lilly or Roche ones.

In fact… they are much crazier and more negative than US!

This sounds like MY KINDA JOB!!!

Urge Surfing

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Author: rule62

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:44 pm

Loved that video and the torment those children went through to wait.

It reminded me of something years ago with a friend of mine in the hospital. He had gotten injured in a motorcycle accident and was in the hospital for about four days. They would give him a pain pill every four-six hours and he would fake taking it and hide it for later. Then at about 9 at night he would take all his stash and enjoy the buzz. Almost the same thing. He put up with the pain just to enjoy a mental vacation later. An addict through and through.

1st time induction in 6 days…should I taper vicodin use?

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Author: Taurus

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:13 pm

Oh I have another question. I’ve heard that people who taper off don’t start feeling withdrawls until the 2nd or 3rd day…so if the half life is so long, why don’t we dose every other day instead of once or twice daily so we are not using more suboxone than we need?

Also, I’m going to ask my doctor at induction if I can get subutex instead of suboxone, mainly to save money, and also because I heard the naloxone causes headaches. I’m just wondering if doctors don’t like to prescribe this because they get some kind of compensation from the manufacturer or something for prescribing suboxone instead. I’ve never been an IV user, in fact I have a needle phobia and will do anything to avoid even seeing a needle, so I don’t see why I couldn’t get the generic. I just have a feeling the doctor will resist for some reason.

Down to 10mg Methadone a day now what?

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Author: BWG707

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 pm

I’m down to 10 mg of Methadone aday for the last 6 days and I’ve kinda hit a wall. I’m getting the restless anxious feeling but not real strong just enough to be irritating. How many mg should I try to get down to before jumping. I started offf taking 20mg for about a year then 40mg for about 3 yrs. I got down to 10mg in two weeks. Any idea at how many mg would be a good time to jump? If I went cold turkey now at 10mg, with some help from Temazepam and Vic. for symptoms, how bad and how long should I expect? I know I shouldn’t be but I’m impatient. When I set my mind to do something I want it done as fast as possible. But I definitely want to make it as easy as possible, I can deal with a certain amount of discomfort of course. Thanks for any suggestions.