Author: stephent

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:26 pm

tearj3rker wrote:

I was up to about 800mg a day when the doc put me on it in high school, and for the first week or so my friends had to pretty much carry me to my classes, and I’d just sleep all through them anyway. But a couple of weeks in I could carry myself around, and start to function okay after my morning dose with a strong coffee. It seems like it’s one of those meds people get used to. I’ve had my 25mg now before bed, and I could stay up fine, I spose. It knocks people who don’t take it regularly tho. Even 25mg. When I first started taking it again this time, the first couple of nights 25mg smashed me. I stumbled to the fridge to stuff my face with left-overs, then went back to bed. That was the only thing that could get me up

I take 50 milligrams of Seroquel nightly for sleep. I have got it down to 25 milligrams before and am going to try to do that again. It is pretty effective (still) which is a great help. I am a lifelong insomniac, some of my earliest memories are of myself struggling to fall asleep as a little child (weird, I know, I would tell myself to "change the channel or turn off the tv" in my brain).

That stuff makes me so damn hungry, the only thing I will get out of bed for is to eat. I am underweight so it sort of helps I guess. The hangover is pretty bad the next day, It takes me hours to get going in the morning. I would like to get off of it and plan on it. But I am also closing in on the end stage of my taper (at 2 milligrams now) and know I have to keep Seroquel as an option.

Author: sweet16

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Awwwwwh, you are doing GREAT! So happy for you and your positive attitude really encourages me. Thank you so much for writing to us every day (blogging) You are such an inspiration. I am going to go get some gatorade. I am on 3/8 of a mg. daily. I think after reading your blog, I may jump off here. I have been on subox since May 17 2011. So 8 months. Seems like a great time to get off. I look forward to reading more of your experience. Have a beautiful day…..

Author: stephent

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:26 pm

tearj3rker wrote:

I was up to about 800mg a day when the doc put me on it in high school, and for the first week or so my friends had to pretty much carry me to my classes, and I’d just sleep all through them anyway. But a couple of weeks in I could carry myself around, and start to function okay after my morning dose with a strong coffee. It seems like it’s one of those meds people get used to. I’ve had my 25mg now before bed, and I could stay up fine, I spose. It knocks people who don’t take it regularly tho. Even 25mg. When I first started taking it again this time, the first couple of nights 25mg smashed me. I stumbled to the fridge to stuff my face with left-overs, then went back to bed. That was the only thing that could get me up

I take 50 milligrams of Seroquel nightly for sleep. I have got it down to 25 milligrams before and am going to try to do that again. It is pretty effective (still) which is a great help. I am a lifelong insomniac, some of my earliest memories are of myself struggling to fall asleep as a little child (weird, I know, I would tell myself to "change the channel or turn off the tv" in my brain).

That stuff makes me so damn hungry, the only thing I will get out of bed for is to eat. I am underweight so it sort of helps I guess. The hangover is pretty bad the next day, It takes me hours to get going in the morning. I would like to get off of it and plan on it. But I am also closing in on the end stage of my taper (at 2 milligrams now) and know I have to keep Seroquel as an option.

Author: stephent

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:39 pm

When I first got on Suboxone, I started feeling emotions I hadn’t felt in a long time if ever.. (started using so young). Over time though, I started to flatten out again and has lost lots of my motivation. I have been in a slow taper for the last 10 months, so that might have something to do with it. This is a hell of a lot more preferable than the the depression you get on a taper or CT from long term opiate WD.

So did it give me my emotions back? I would say yes. Plus its great to not feel constant anxiety and depression right all the time and that was what I felt when using. Its amazing, but my recent therapist told me that I didn’t meet the qualifications as someone who is depressed, that was just a side effect of my using.

I still have a long way to go, I am looking forward to getting off Sub but am not rushing it. This is all my decision, I could stay on for life if I needed (I don’t and really do not meet that criteria). Some people simply do not produce enough endorphins naturally and need something like Sub. I do not think I am one of those people, but there is really only one way to be sure and that is to try living without constant drug use.

I have been doing some pretty deep therapy recently, and when I first got clean I doubt I would be able to handle it. I think that Suboxone helped in that it allowed me to feel some things, but I didn’t get that complete over-whelming that many of us know from previous WDs (the ones where you cry from the littlest things on TV). I remember an animated ad for Prozac specifically from one WD really getting to me. I laugh about it now though.

Author: stephent

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:39 pm

When I first got on Suboxone, I started feeling emotions I hadn’t felt in a long time if ever.. (started using so young). Over time though, I started to flatten out again and has lost lots of my motivation. I have been in a slow taper for the last 10 months, so that might have something to do with it. This is a hell of a lot more preferable than the the depression you get on a taper or CT from long term opiate WD.

So did it give me my emotions back? I would say yes. Plus its great to not feel constant anxiety and depression right all the time and that was what I felt when using. Its amazing, but my recent therapist told me that I didn’t meet the qualifications as someone who is depressed, that was just a side effect of my using.

I still have a long way to go, I am looking forward to getting off Sub but am not rushing it. This is all my decision, I could stay on for life if I needed (I don’t and really do not meet that criteria). Some people simply do not produce enough endorphins naturally and need something like Sub. I do not think I am one of those people, but there is really only one way to be sure and that is to try living without constant drug use.

I have been doing some pretty deep therapy recently, and when I first got clean I doubt I would be able to handle it. I think that Suboxone helped in that it allowed me to feel some things, but I didn’t get that complete over-whelming that many of us know from previous WDs (the ones where you cry from the littlest things on TV). I remember an animated ad for Prozac specifically from one WD really getting to me. I laugh about it now though.

Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:31 pm

Having nitrous oxide at the dentist’s is a relapse?

Your friend sounds like some kind of recovery zealot.

Would having an epidural in labour be a relapse? I don’t think so. If it’s being used for legitimate painkilling purposes, and not abused, then it ain’t a relapse. However, if you weren’t actually in any pain, and you accepted it anyway because of how it’d make you feel… then that’d be pushing it IMO. But in this case only you would know within yourself whether or not you have relapsed.

Attitudes like this remind me of some of the people in NA who gossiped that I’d relapsed because I got put back on Seroquel.

In summary. Nitrous oxide in the dentist’s office for analgesia = not relapse.
Sucking down nitrous bulbs sitting on a rave dancefloor = pushing it.

Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:31 pm

Having nitrous oxide at the dentist’s is a relapse?

Your friend sounds like some kind of recovery zealot.

Would having an epidural in labour be a relapse? I don’t think so. If it’s being used for legitimate painkilling purposes, and not abused, then it ain’t a relapse. However, if you weren’t actually in any pain, and you accepted it anyway because of how it’d make you feel… then that’d be pushing it IMO. But in this case only you would know within yourself whether or not you have relapsed.

Attitudes like this remind me of some of the people in NA who gossiped that I’d relapsed because I got put back on Seroquel.

In summary. Nitrous oxide in the dentist’s office for analgesia = not relapse.
Sucking down nitrous bulbs sitting on a rave dancefloor = pushing it.

Author: WalterE

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Thank you for the reply. My only hope has been to be pill free. I will shoot for a 7-10 window as duty calls and I can’t NOT work but am lowering dosage each day. Again, thanks.

Author: WalterE

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Thank you for the reply. My only hope has been to be pill free. I will shoot for a 7-10 window as duty calls and I can’t NOT work but am lowering dosage each day. Again, thanks.

Author: sweet16

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:30 pm

Rule, So very happy that the surgery is behind you. You are so brave and strong. You have the right attitude. I hope you can rest now and get back to life as usual. You are an amazing person and I am sending positive thoughts and wishes for you and your family… Remember that everything happens for a reason. Had you got adequte meds, it might have created a difficult situation in the long run….. You are a trooper……..1000 Blessings Rule…..