Time to quit. Need advice!

Author: laddertipper

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:12 pm

Far_From_free wrote:
Approaching eight years on sub and think its quitting time. I’m not quit sure on how to go about it though. for 18 months ive been taking between .5 – .75 mg a day (cutting those 8mg tabs into accurate doses of .5mg is a problem for me). will tapering down to a lower dose make much of a difference?

I am puzzled by how this drug works. personal cant see how a drug can do the same thing at .5mg, as it does at 16(at least for me it did). Any thoughts?

I was wondering also if i could taper down to nothing and be withdrawel free? Has anyone had luck with this?

What seems to be the best way to come off this stuff?

thanks Rob

I stopped Sub after taking it for nearly six years. I tapered down to 1/16 a day. It made a huge difference in my jump, which I barely felt. I tried jumping off at other doses, .25 and up, and it was really not that fun, IMO. Getting down to 1/16 seemed to keep me from having to endure the acute stuff.

The main problem I’m still having is what is known as PAWS, which I didn’t really buy into until it happened to me. It’s like mild w/d drawn out over a long period, and it fades in and out. Some days I barely have a single symptom. Some days, I’m totally ticked off because I have chills and anxiety, cold extremities, sweats, runny nose, insomnia. You know the deal. It’s not bad, but it is unexpected and it is sometimes worse than anything I got right after my jump. I mean, it’s been 5+ months since I stopped. I think it’s getting better. It’s probably good that you mentally prepare for some lingering stuff. And start working out. Hike, bike, run, swim, snowboard…whatever you want. It is your golden ticket.

There’s a lot of debate over whether it pays off in the long run to taper as low as I did. Many people swear it works and lessens the severity of acute w/d and PAWS. Other people think it’s not worth it. I really don’t know the answer. I expected smooth sailing after I jumped because I tapered so low. That isn’t how it went, but my jump was a cinch, so…..I’m not so sure there is a right way.

FYI, regardless of ongoing symptoms, I still say this is totally doable. I 100% can handle even the worst symptoms standing on my head. I feel like I’ve already pretty much made it and I know it will be okay. You are fairly low on your dose. You have already gotten the hardest part done too. Good luck and don’t be afraid of this last little bit. You really are nearly there.

laddertipper

9 months later, STILL cleaning up my mess

Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:17 pm

Romeo’s got a point. If you did have an incident with this guy and you left him writhing on the sidewalk with a face full of wasp spray. Things would get a LOT worse fast. You’d have the whole family after you, and they’d really have reason to inflict damage.

I found that most of the time, these dramas tend to fade away with time, unless they get inflamed again for any reason. And a move like that would bring everything to a head. There’s been threats, but no violence. If you pushed it to that level… you know you’ll be outgunned.

Just for a sense of security. If this guy really wanted to hurt you, it would have been done by now. It seems like he just wants to make life hard for you. One year sure is a long memory for an active addict, but still… Money on he will lose interest over time as the other dramas to distract him… or end up in jail for a while.

I’d keep chipping away at his wife. If there’s ever a chance to do her a solid favor… word may get to him and he ..may.. pull back a bit. It’s a bit peace-love-and-mungbeans, but it’s good to be an opportunist with that stuff.

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and scream obscentities at me, while hanging on my window, WHILE EVERYONE AND THERE MOTHER STARES or stops there car to watch,

That sucks. Life’s not like the movies where everyone’s a hero. Just the other day there was camera footage of a guy being stood over by one other guy at an ATM in a busy city street and about 20 people either stood there stunned or ran away.

JUMPING OFF SUB

Author: laddertipper

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:17 pm

courtney b wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I was just wondering how low should you really try to go before jumping off sub? I’am at 160mcg so far and hoping to get a little lower before taking the plunge. What kind of withdrawal can I expect when I stop for good? Also I just want to thank everyone for their wisdom on this website.I know it has helped me greatly!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks
Courtney Razz

I think you will feel very little. I jumped at 64.5 micrograms and barely felt anything acute. What I did feel carried over into PAWS and hasn’t changed much, but it’s nothing severe or scary. You’re really low, so congratulations on that!

laddertipper

Alrighty, .25mg once a day~ feeling ready

Author: sweet16

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:01 pm

Whew! Today is the 2nd night that I have eliminated my evening dose of 1/8mg. I still take my 1/4 mg. in the morning when I wake up. So I am at JUST .25mg daily. I am feeling pretty good. It took me, what seemed like a long time, to get over the lethargy after my last few decreases, but I just keep on pushing thru. My main symptoms are lethargy. I am just so damed tired. Again I keep pushing thru my days. I just wanted to update ya’all on my progress. I hope that I will make another decrease in a couple weeks maybe sooner. I do not exactly know when I will step off or at what dose, but I really think I could do it now. I just want to be SURE I feel the least amount of WD symptoms as possible. Hope everyone is doing well….Night

I’ve Relapsed and feel so shit

Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:07 pm

Babydoll wrote:
but I am dreading it this time cos I don’t want us ending up doing the inevitable.

Why make it inevitable if you don’t want to do it?

It’s so typical of this bastard addiction thing to play these games and make you feel like you have no choice in the matter. There is always choice! It just gets totally obscured by the desire to use.

If you ever feel like you have no choice, that using is inevitable… then call someone up and have them whack you with a wet ocean trout. Works every time.

First day off subs

Author: sweet16

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:12 pm

Greetings, I am sorry nobody has replied to your post. I feel for you friend. I hope you can make it thru the worst of the WD and in just a few more days you will start to feel much much better. I know there will be some really great advise for you as soon as the wonderful people on this forum see your post. Until then take some hot bathes as often as you like. Try some epom salt in the tub. This will help with all of your symptoms temporarily. Make sure to keep hydrated and eat really really healthy. If at all possible, go for short walks. It WILL help even though it is the farthest thing from your mind right now. Sip on some sleepytime tea to help you relax. Hang tough.. & try to be positive.. Just think of what it will be like to be completely free of opiates… Wish I had more to offer..Blessings to you & yours

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