Author: sweet16
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:04 pm
Thanks Romeo, I feel really good today. No weed, although shortly after I woke up I thought I’d like to get stoned, but I didn’t. I would rather NOT be tired & on my ass all day. I am hoping that i am begining to stabelize on .25mg. I really do not feel bad. I did start to notice my lower back ach slightly around 4pm. I woke up this AM at 7 and dosed. So 9 hrs of feeling totally normal. I can’t complain. All is well. PEACE
Author: sweet16
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:04 pm
Thanks Romeo, I feel really good today. No weed, although shortly after I woke up I thought I’d like to get stoned, but I didn’t. I would rather NOT be tired & on my ass all day. I am hoping that i am begining to stabelize on .25mg. I really do not feel bad. I did start to notice my lower back ach slightly around 4pm. I woke up this AM at 7 and dosed. So 9 hrs of feeling totally normal. I can’t complain. All is well. PEACE
Author: slipper
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:32 pm
| rule62 wrote: |
| No use trying to catch a buzz on pain meds if you’re a Suboxone patient. I finally came to the conclusion that I feel so much better on my Sub than trying to catch a buzz on the Lortabs.
They may work for pain but I couldn’t tell any difference. In order for pain meds to actually work for me I would need to be off the Sub for over a month or more. What ended up happening (again) was taking too many just so I could feel them. Then the guilt comes back and I give up right away and go back on my Sub. My wife said she can tell my personality difference when taking the Lortabs vs the Sub and is pleased that I’m back to my old self. So here is my plan. Stay on Sub until I need more pain meds for whatever pain I’ll be facing in the future. I do have an appt. with a Pain Clinic next week but I will call them today to make sure they can dispense Sub. If not, then I’ll cancel the appointment and go see my Sub doc for more. I have about a weeks supply left. My Sub Dr. told me to stop the Sub and go to the pain clinic and stick with pain pills until my cancer treatment is over. I will do that only if they give me strong enough meds to do some good. 10mg Lortabs are nothing. All they do is keep me out of w/d. And if I can get a time relief something I won’t/can’t abuse it. Yes I know you can abuse it but I won’t. It’s different when you have a jar of 50 pretty blue pills staring at you. My question is; just how long does one have to be off Sub for the lightweight stuff to work?(Hydro) My guess is two months minimum. Just a guess. I am facing Radiation Therapy and have researched and found that there is a lot of pain. Normally, morphine, fentynal, or Oxy’s are prescribed. Hopefully I won’t need those because I am getting a low dose version. My pain was having the cancer surgically removed. Others take the full rads to shrink the tumors. So now I’ve paid my dues and the rest should be easier. We’ll see very soon. I start in 5 weeks. Bottom line. I was not able to put aside my addictive behavior for more than a week. The brain wants that warm fuzzy feeling and even taking 5 at a time, couldn’t get it. Back on my beloved Sub. I do feel so much better on it and my addictive brain goes back into remission. Rule |
Rule,
I am so sorry you are having to go through this…and now the radiation. I would like to say that my mother had ca of the bladder and had radiation…and she had very little pain from it. Are you going to do chemo as well…to me, that is worse than radiation. The only big problem I had with my mom is we had to go everyday for the radiation for 6 weeks. shit!
That does get old.
Does the sub help your pain at all? If it does and this is the last part of your treatment, you might just want to stay on it.
I agree with you that we have to be off sub for a long time for the pain pills to work. If you are going to be in for some severe pain you might try getting off sub now and maybe the longer you take the pain pills the better they will work.
One reason I feel your pain meds did not work for you is because they gave you so damn little of it!! 5mg. hydro…are you kidding me….you need something way stronger than lortab!
I do hope it is not painful and you can just remain on sub. Please let us know what happens, what you will do. I am praying for you every night and I realize you have been through hell on this! Things just have to get better, and they will!
Hoping for you to get well soon!
Love,
Slipper
Author: slipper
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:32 pm
| rule62 wrote: |
| No use trying to catch a buzz on pain meds if you’re a Suboxone patient. I finally came to the conclusion that I feel so much better on my Sub than trying to catch a buzz on the Lortabs.
They may work for pain but I couldn’t tell any difference. In order for pain meds to actually work for me I would need to be off the Sub for over a month or more. What ended up happening (again) was taking too many just so I could feel them. Then the guilt comes back and I give up right away and go back on my Sub. My wife said she can tell my personality difference when taking the Lortabs vs the Sub and is pleased that I’m back to my old self. So here is my plan. Stay on Sub until I need more pain meds for whatever pain I’ll be facing in the future. I do have an appt. with a Pain Clinic next week but I will call them today to make sure they can dispense Sub. If not, then I’ll cancel the appointment and go see my Sub doc for more. I have about a weeks supply left. My Sub Dr. told me to stop the Sub and go to the pain clinic and stick with pain pills until my cancer treatment is over. I will do that only if they give me strong enough meds to do some good. 10mg Lortabs are nothing. All they do is keep me out of w/d. And if I can get a time relief something I won’t/can’t abuse it. Yes I know you can abuse it but I won’t. It’s different when you have a jar of 50 pretty blue pills staring at you. My question is; just how long does one have to be off Sub for the lightweight stuff to work?(Hydro) My guess is two months minimum. Just a guess. I am facing Radiation Therapy and have researched and found that there is a lot of pain. Normally, morphine, fentynal, or Oxy’s are prescribed. Hopefully I won’t need those because I am getting a low dose version. My pain was having the cancer surgically removed. Others take the full rads to shrink the tumors. So now I’ve paid my dues and the rest should be easier. We’ll see very soon. I start in 5 weeks. Bottom line. I was not able to put aside my addictive behavior for more than a week. The brain wants that warm fuzzy feeling and even taking 5 at a time, couldn’t get it. Back on my beloved Sub. I do feel so much better on it and my addictive brain goes back into remission. Rule |
Rule,
I am so sorry you are having to go through this…and now the radiation. I would like to say that my mother had ca of the bladder and had radiation…and she had very little pain from it. Are you going to do chemo as well…to me, that is worse than radiation. The only big problem I had with my mom is we had to go everyday for the radiation for 6 weeks. shit!
That does get old.
Does the sub help your pain at all? If it does and this is the last part of your treatment, you might just want to stay on it.
I agree with you that we have to be off sub for a long time for the pain pills to work. If you are going to be in for some severe pain you might try getting off sub now and maybe the longer you take the pain pills the better they will work.
One reason I feel your pain meds did not work for you is because they gave you so damn little of it!! 5mg. hydro…are you kidding me….you need something way stronger than lortab!
I do hope it is not painful and you can just remain on sub. Please let us know what happens, what you will do. I am praying for you every night and I realize you have been through hell on this! Things just have to get better, and they will!
Hoping for you to get well soon!
Love,
Slipper
Author: slipper
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:49 pm
| tearj3rker wrote: | ||||
| Firstly I should say that I’m no medical professional. I’m just an opioid dependent guy who reads a lot. It’s not smart to experiment with this use until more research is done.
Tonight I stumbled on some info about Scopolamine while reading about diving. Scopolamine is the drug used in travel sickness pills, and naturally occurs in the Datura flower and a few other naughty garden plants teenagers like to eat. I’ll stop typing and just paste the interesting bits.
I went a bit further, and found there’s been studies into scopolamine and the use of travel sickness patches for depression with promising results, so for those like me who are dual diagnosed it may be worth watching this space. But, like with Suboxone, there’s no such thing as a free ride. Looks like Scopolamine has its own withdrawal process that sounds a bit nasty, if it’s taken 3+ days. |
[b]Tear,
I am really afraid of scopolamine. WE used to give it in surgery to help dry up the mouth and prevent laringiospasm.
When I had my first child I was in a little small town hospital and basically had him cold turkey. They gave me a shot of demerol with scopolamine and I had acute effects from the scope. I felt like I was dying, my heart was beating in my throat, my vision was blurred an I had acute tachycardia. It absolutely ruined the nice effect the demerol would have had.
I will never take that drug again..it really scared me….but that is just my experence. If it can help others, then I all for that. It is just not for me.
Slipper[/b]
Author: slipper
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:49 pm
| tearj3rker wrote: | ||||
| Firstly I should say that I’m no medical professional. I’m just an opioid dependent guy who reads a lot. It’s not smart to experiment with this use until more research is done.
Tonight I stumbled on some info about Scopolamine while reading about diving. Scopolamine is the drug used in travel sickness pills, and naturally occurs in the Datura flower and a few other naughty garden plants teenagers like to eat. I’ll stop typing and just paste the interesting bits.
I went a bit further, and found there’s been studies into scopolamine and the use of travel sickness patches for depression with promising results, so for those like me who are dual diagnosed it may be worth watching this space. But, like with Suboxone, there’s no such thing as a free ride. Looks like Scopolamine has its own withdrawal process that sounds a bit nasty, if it’s taken 3+ days. |
[b]Tear,
I am really afraid of scopolamine. WE used to give it in surgery to help dry up the mouth and prevent laringiospasm.
When I had my first child I was in a little small town hospital and basically had him cold turkey. They gave me a shot of demerol with scopolamine and I had acute effects from the scope. I felt like I was dying, my heart was beating in my throat, my vision was blurred an I had acute tachycardia. It absolutely ruined the nice effect the demerol would have had.
I will never take that drug again..it really scared me….but that is just my experence. If it can help others, then I all for that. It is just not for me.
Slipper[/b]
Author: news_poster
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:00 am
Wow. I just read an email about a story that I was vaguely aware of– about a doctor in Kansas and his wife, who were together linked to scores of overdose deaths. But that is just the beginning. The doctor was supported, during his trial, by Siobhan Reynolds, founder of a nonprofit advocacy group called […]
Source: Suboxone Talk Zone
A recovering psychiatrist talks about Suboxone, treatment for opiate dependence and chronic pain. Includes questions and answers with addicts and patients on Suboxone.
Author: news_poster
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:00 am
This paper traces the early 21st century success of the agonist–antagonist buprenorphine and the combination drug buprenorphine with naloxone within the broader quest to develop addiction therapeutics that began in the 1920s as the search for a nonaddictive analgesic. Drawing on archival research, document analysis, and interviews with contemporary actors, this paper situates the social organization of laboratoryâ€Â�based and clinical research within the domestic and international confluence of several issues, including research ethics, drug regulation, public attitudes, tensions around definitions of drug addiction, and the evolving roles of the pharmaceutical industry. The fervor that drove the champions of buprenorphine must be understood in relation to (1) the material work of researc…
Source: MedWorm Query: Buprenorphine
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