Author: MES999

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:55 pm

pls look at the post i put in misc. suboxone issues and let me know if u think this is bullshit…… how someone i new quit subssssssssssss……………

Author: Romeo

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:51 am

Hey BK,

Is it ever nice to have you back!!

I’m sorry you’re having a rough time with your taper. Like the others have said, crying during detox/taper is not unusual. I broke down many times during my detox. It’s just part of the healing process.

I would also suggest that you take your taper as slow as you can. You’re in a bit of a pickle because of the side effects the medicine is causing and I understand that. You’re kinda walking a tightrope with your taper.

I’m glad you decided to take that .3mg today to make yourself feel better, you have probably tapered a little bit too quickly and there is no shame in taking a small amount of Suboxone to help you stabilize.

Have you looked into Clonidine?? It’s a blood pressure medication that’s prescribed "off label" for opiate wd and it helped me tremendously. It doesn’t eliminate all the wd symptoms, but it sure knocks them down a peg or two. Clonidine calms the Sympathetic Nervous System. Clonidine is NOT addictive either, I took it for months and months and months and discontinued it with no problems at all.

Make sure you Doctor does not confuse Klonopin with Clonidine.

Good luck and keep hanging in there!!

Author: tearj3rker

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:56 am

MES, I don’t doubt that the process worked for him. There are countless ways people can detox. People go to Thailand to joint a camp where they’re forced to vomit for 30 days, and some even get clean from that. It doesn’t matter how a person gets clean, what matters is whether they’re determined enough to do it.

What I’m trying to say is, people can get clean through all sorts of ways. Recommending that people take Vicodin to ease the withdrawal is dangerous. It may have worked for your friend, but I tell you, 99% of people couldn’t control their vicodin dosing in the middle of withdrawals. It’s a very dangerous suggestion, and a recipe for relapse for most addicts.

I’ve been watching your posts for the last few days MES, and I don’t want to sound blunt, but it seems you’re fixated on finding "shortcuts" to get off opioids. All opioids, including suboxone, are a challenge to get off. And there are no shortcuts! It’s one of those things a person can’t cut corners with, or take "drugs" to cure. As long as you keep looking for these shortcuts, or drugs to cure your addiction, especially ideas like this, IMO (and I don’t want to be blunt) you’re not yet at the stage in your recovery to consider getting off Suboxone. That being said, I don’t know you in person. I’m just going based on the things you have posted.

All the best. And seriously, don’t self-administer Vicodin to help you detox – or should I say, retox.

Author: news_poster

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:00 am

Conclusions: Both glucuronide metabolites of buprenorphine are biologically active at doses relevant to metabolite exposures, which occur after buprenorphine. Activity of the glucuronides may contribute to the overall pharmacology of buprenorphine. (Source: Anesthesiology)

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Author: news_poster

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:00 am

I recently blogged about Buprenorphine, a medication that can help get heroin and other opiate addicts through detox and heroin withdrawal.

Today, I’m writing about another medication, Suboxone. Suboxone contains Buprenorphine, but it also contains another ingredient that helps with the process of overcoming addiction. And research shows that it can help with relapse prevention over the longer term, as well as withdrawal in the short term. (Source: About.com Addictions)

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Author: news_poster

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:00 am

ConclusionThree years after the launch of the buprenorphine generic, the health professionals’ and buprenorphine users’ perception of generic can still change. Additionally, the longâ€Â�term impact of generic medications with abuse potential has not yet been studied. Thus, continued monitoring of buprenorphine is needed. Copyright © 2011 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. (Source: Pharmacoepidemiology and Drug Safety)

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Author: indigochild

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:38 am

that was not a bottom story just a craving story that made a positive impact…..if that makes any sence?

Author: slipper

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:54 am

TO LISASLIFE: My first sub dr. made me wait 12 hours. She even wrote me a script for hydrocodone to get me through the rest of the day (asked me how many I would need!!)….then she said take nothing after midnight and the next morning I could start my suboxone. She also did not dose me in the office..so I don’t know how good she was. My new
Dr. dosed me in the office and made me wait 24 hours. This is just how they did me, I don’t know whether it is right or not.
Good luck to you!…….Judy

Author: hatmaker510

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:48 am

This above is what is the most important thing that I believe you need to consider, yet you are not. You are not withdrawing from two weeks of sub. What you’re really doing is you’re using sub to taper off the opiates that you were abusing before the sub. So my question to you is what were you using before and for how long? THAT is what you’re going to be withdrawing from. Your brain doesn’t really know the difference – an opiate is an opiate is an opiate.

We use suboxone to taper off opiates because generally speaking, we addicts aren’t capable of tapering off our DOC, whereas we are quite capable of tapering off with sub.

I hope your short term taper goes well. Good luck to you and keep the updates coming.

Author: rule62

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:14 pm

I tried to explain the Sub problem and pain management to this surgeon but he is a brainiac and wouldn’t listen to anything he doesn’t already know. Really had no choice in the matter as he is the best there is and if he couldn’t do it then they were going to send me out of state. This doctor is so busy due to his reputation that the wait to see him is 3 hours if you can even get an appt.

My Sub doctor only told me to stop the Sub and use the pain pills after surgery. No, he did not call my surgeon. Between my new ENT, surgeon, and Sub doctor, not one of them will call the other physicians for any information. IMO it’s an ego thing.

Other patients have told me that the radiation doctor will give you whatever you need for pain so at least I won’t worry about that.

BTW, I’ve had three shoulder surgeries in the past and the pain was quite manageable. I guess it really depends on what you’re having done. My sister in law who had breast cancer with a mastectomy never once took a pain pill. Go figure.