Author: u2star
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:34 pm
| johnboy wrote: |
| i may have more problems than that on suboxone ". and my doc will not change me to subatex just because of that. to risky? |
What are your issues johnboy? I spoke with my doc too and she will not switch me to subutex. he says she never prescribes it (I am guessing because of abuse/sell potential) Wish I could try it. Getting rid of the Naloxone couldn’t hurt. Some of it has to be absorbed I don’t care if it is a small amount.
Author: sweet16
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:34 pm
You all make me laugh. I have had a shitty day withdrawling, but this moving thread is funny. I have moved so many times I lost count. I also have kids too. I tell ya, last time I moved, I left everything with the guy I married way too fast. Left nearly everything I owned for 15 years prior to meeting the guy I married way too fast. When I left, (the guy a=I married way too fast) I kept next to nothing. I even slept on the floor for 3 months. Thats how little I kept. I finally have a bed and a few household items, but I do NOT miss all the stuff. I have so much less to worry about. It really is a relief. And to think of all the money I spent on all that stuff. We really do not need even half of the stuff we think we do. Now the next time I move, it will be a hell of a lot easier.
Author: meltalk
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:11 pm
Tear thanks for the wise words!!! I will look for thier # and will post my results from the phone call to pharmacy and or RB
Mel 
Author: tearj3rker
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:38 pm
| johnboy wrote: |
| wow 400mgoxy- is a lot for 18 months’.. jimmy" i was taking close to 500mg a day for 9 months of the liquid form,and did not feel a thing from it!! i have arrithythmia/ palp-tear3" what the heck is QT- prolongation? |
It should be alright johnboy, but may be worth mentioning to your doc.
Certain medications have been shown to mess with QT interval. For me it was Amisulpride, which is no longer prescribed for that reason, and once an accidental Seroquel overdose had me waking up to bad palpitations. QT prolongation is a form of arrhythmia, where the rhythm of the heart beat changes, gets broken up, stops / starts or brings on palpitations. In its mild form it can be quite frightening.
A lot of psych medications can cause it to varying degrees – like tricyclics, anti-psychotics, some SNRI’s, also methadone, and to a lesser degree buprenorphine.
http://www.sads.org.uk/drugs_to_avoid.htm
It may be worth investigating if you believe a medication may be behind it johnboy. There are heaps of medications on that list, many which only contribute mildly to people who are already vulnerable. So don’t freak out.
Author: Breezy_Ann
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:26 am
Diaries word horrific is the best to describe this. A few months ago someone posted an article about this (i think it was this same one but I have to go back and look). I was disturbed for quite a while after reading it then. I can’t believe Russia is still allowing this to go on. I pray this is something that never finds it’s way to other countries, especially here.
Author: Lillyval
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:41 am
My favorite part is that in the prescribing information it tells the doctors that "no adequate studies" have been done on how to discontinue Suboxone. But in the patient insert it says "ask your doctor" how to get off of Suboxone. I honestly believe they want us physically dependent on it with no exit strategy, so they can make a mint.
BTW I recently found out Reckitt-Benckiser makes Nurofen Plus (OTC codeine in U.K.). In the original formulation the pill was made in halves with the codeine on one side and the ibuprofen on the other, so people could easily take high doses of codeine without the other stuff. A lot of people got addicted to codeine and I think they are going to (or already have) put controls on it now. I can’t help but think this is all part of RBs marketing plan to keep the patients coming back – the more physically dependent the better- and if the opiates stop working for you, you can always get on Suboxone!
Author: hatmaker510
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:15 am
I don’t think you need to plan ahead to do this over xmas or summer or any other planned time period. I would suggest you start your taper and just continue it. If it’s slow and steady and you listen to what your body needs – don’t push it too hard – then you shouldn’t have those major issues. You won’t be "jumping" off – it’ll be more like you taper down so low that you’ll actually be "stepping" off. Read up on LadderTipper’s taper thread. Hers was long and drawn out, but she had next to no acute withdrawals. Same as Diary of a Quitter – she did the liquid taper and also had almost zero acute withdrawals. Diary also, I believe, had no issues with PAWS, either. The long drawn out taper should also help reduce PAWS.
What I’m trying to say as don’t think of it as something you’ll do in a week or a month’s time. It’s something you’ll do over a period of months (depending on the person). And if done "right", you won’t feel it so horribly. The idea is to slowly remove the opiate from your brain; so slowly that your brain can hardly tell that it’s being removed.
Sorry if I’m not explaining this well. But I hope this helps. Just remember, the slower you go, the less w/d you should have.
Author: Breezy_Ann
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:27 am
I am sorry your dealing with this and hope Medicaid gets this issue resolved. It is such bullshit that they wait for you to fill your meds to inform you of the review. Why can’t they tell you when you filled your last script to give you time to take care of it, it’s not like they didn’t know.
I know everyone’s post surgical pain is completely different but my mom had her gall bladder removed a few years ago and only required pain meds for about 5 days and said the pain wasn’t too bad. I hope you have the same experience.
Author: Romeo
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:27 pm
Oh, I thought the workbooks you were talking about were basically reprints of NA stuff, that’s why I wasn’t too interested. I’ve already got a bunch of the NA books and whatnot and I figured they were all the same?
I can get these workbooks at a Barnes and Noble type store??
BTW, you’re right, to a degree, as far as my behaviors. I’ve changed some of them, but for the most part I’ve been in this kind of learning mode. I’ve been learning about recovery and I basically know what I SHOULD be doing, but actually doing it is another thing entirely.
Again, I think part of this is that I’m staring at an elephant, it’s my job to eat him, but the task seems so frickin’ huge that I don’t know where to start. I’ve taken bites here and there, but then the scope of the job sits in again and I get frustrated and say eff it and go back to what I know best, being me.
Hatmaker, you’re getting under my skin and if you keep it up, I may just go eat that elephant to shut you up!!! LOL