Author: SouthJaxBeach

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:54 pm

Hi Lilly,
Thanks for the info. Always good to have a refresher for those of us who forgot or just don’t know much about equivalent doses. I don’t know I completely follow the equivalent dose thing for a couple reasons…and if you could help to clarify or put my concerns to rest, that would be great. I know it’s probably too complicated for most anyone to understand or figure out due to a number of reasons.

One reason is the 37hr half life for bupe and the plateau effect it creates being much higher than typical opiates(excluding methadone). I read in the liquid taper thread that taking 1mg a day would create a plateau in your blood of about 2.8mg. Meaning when you stop from 1mg you’re actually stopping from 2.8mg due to the amount that has built up over time…big difference.

Now I know the bioavailability(amount absorbed into your bloodstream) is roughly 30% for bupe taken sublingually. BUT are we taking into account the bioavailability of the percocet(oxycodone) as well? I know there is a different bioavailability for oxy for different types of use (oral, snorting, shooting, ect). Sorry, I know this is all confusing, I’m longwinded sometimes and a simple general rule of thumb is probably best…

That being said I have a hard time believing that .375mg of sub = 5mg of percocet….It might be true if you only took .375mg of sub for one day, but I’m not so sure about daily use. I’m taking .2mg of sub a day and definitely feel like I’m still taking more than 5mg of perc. SOME of this MAY be in my head, but physically I feel a lot more effects than 5mg of percocet which is why I’m tapering to a much lower dose. I’ve still felt noticeable w/d tapering at less than .5mg/day, not bad but I feel it every time.

Sorry for the long winded post and I’m most definitely not trying to stir the pot or sway anyone in any way shape or form…I’m just going from my experiences and I think the lower you taper the better….