Author: subdoesntwork

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:06 pm

Homer,

If you have a method of slowly increasing bupe levels in your blood or something similar that works for you I would love to hear it. I have been desperately trying to get back on subs but my oxy tolerence is 450mg ( 15 blues ) a day and I just can not get it to work anymore and I always cave in and use because of the severity of the withdrawals. I still dont understand the reason for the poll rather than just posting it, even if it only helped one person wouldnt that be good enough for you?. If I find a way to fix my own screwed up situation, I would be willing to share with anyone who would want to listen, even if it was only one person sincerely interested.

I definately would love to hear what has worked for you by building up the bupe levels to decrease the severity of the withdrawals. Like I said, I still dont understand about the poll and and wondering why you just didnt post it, but just in case you have something for real that could work for myself or others, for the chance that it could work, im willing to try anything. I am at the end of my rope here. This stuff is life or death for alot of people searching for answers and toying around with " I have a method that works for me but will only share it if enough people beg me for it, really isnt that cool man. Sorry if you dont like to hear that, but thats just how it came across.

Heres my story if you are serious about letting people know about this method you are proposing or if you are even interested: If you dont care, dont bother to read any further as I dont want to waste your time.

Suboxone and Subutex used to work like a wonder drug for me and i guess i just wasn’t ready to fully quit at the time and i would use oxys for a while and then detox using subs and stay clean for a few weeks to a month and then start using again. I know that was very stupid of me but if I knew better, i wouldn’t be in the position I am in right now. I thought I had it all figured out, lol.

Now, my fiance and i are taking about 15 30mg oxycodone Immediate release pills (blues). Every single time we try and get clean using subutex, we wait until we are in full withdrawals and wait anywhere between 24-36 hours and we get extremely sick. We usually start out either taking a half a pill of subutex or a full 8mg pill and it doesn’t make a difference, we always get very sick to the point where we can not stand it any more and end up taking a shot of about 90mgs of the blues and it takes us out of the sickness, but then we went through all that hell for nothing.

Our tolerance is so high right now where we don’t really even get any relief from taking the pain pills. What i am wondering is with our tolerance the way it is, do we maybe need to take alot more of the subutex initially? Or does that not matter? Every single suboxone/subutex doctor always tells me that if I follow their instructions exactly it will work and that is just not the case any more. We also wait alot longer than they recommend due to the fear of precipitated withdrawals and that doesn’t help. If I tell them what happened, they always become extremely upset and don’t like to hear that it didn’t work.

We really want to get clean, we even flew to Michigan and were going to have a rapid detox procedure done that was going to cost 19K and they were not able to perform the treatment because my fiance’s blood levels were way too high for a few different things which we are taking care of right now also. So it is not that we don’t want to get clean, i was going to spend 19K to get clean and was not able to go that route which may have been a good thing or not depending on the research I have been doing.

Also, I am currently trying to taper down on the oxys according to a schedule that we made up.

I wish there was a way to have a doctor or nurse come to my house and inject me with something that would knock me out when i experience these horrifying withdrawals. That would make it alot easier. We have tried using xanax and we are so sick that the xanax doesn’t even seem to have any effect no matter how many we take.

I read on the forum where you ( Homer ) seemed to have a method where you slowly take subutex at small dosages to get the bupe binded to the receptors over time to build up, which sounds like a possible method. At this point I am willing to try anything.

Any advice you may have would be very much appreciated. Thank you so much in advance if you actually come through with any advice for this method, and if you are not willing to, I think the whole idea of posting this POLL was really screwed up!

Thanks,

Mike