Author: hopespring

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:34 am

Hi,

Torment on the drug or getting off it,?

Hey, everything has its negatives, but, most people would be hard pressed to say opiates aren’t pleasureable.
The opposite, for people getting off them.

I hear what your saying, and its sounds like your not cooked yet..As you say, you feel a bit fragile, and you fear using, if clean.
Fair enough.
I don;t know how old you are, or what stage in your life you are, or what you have been through.
But, I know all opiates are a short term fix, instead of ong term happiness.

Hypothetically,
If you could painlessly detox off bupe, and get back to that state, before you ever used, despite having the knowledge of your past addiction,. You would feel pretty damn good. lets face it, your body produces opiates naturally.
When you walk, when you move etc. (endogenous opiiods)
So why be greedy?.
Its like in lfe we get this choice,. To have super charged opiate levels, that can only lead to trouble, or just accept, that once, we did not need a pill to be happy.

It is that fear of WD and the sensation of pain, that drive this addiction. it is all in that moment, when common sense turns to fear. Anxiety kicks in, panic, then its back to addiction cycle.

When I said cooked before, i mean, it sounds that for this moment in your life, you should stay on the bupe. It took me 5 years, till I thought i was ready.(cooked)
Bupe is the place to be, to get your life back together, and then just wait till your sick enough off it, and the BS that comes with it. ie dr.s stigma, laziness, depersonalisation, no socail life, over sleeping, and every day, month year on these cray maintenance drugs, the hole just gets that little deeper to get out of.

Mate, I’m over 40, have almost been through every addiction in the book, most of us have. It was the world around me, when I moved out of home, and ventured into this crazy world.

Cigarettes, amphetamines, opiods Have now stopped them all.
I know where this road leads, and it is not for me. I could never give up before, either, any of the DOC’s
I would always restart, after a month, a year, i just did not know why. But I kept trying,
I kinda learnt, with cigs, that if i cut a slither of the nicotine patch every other day, It might work,
It did, for me,.
Its a false economy, artificial opiates, just stick to natural, I say.

Just do whatever makes you happy, This makes me happy.

HS