Going back to opiates to get off Suboxone

Author: OFT

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:23 pm

True 717 I appreciate you sharing your experiences with me. You said you wouldnt recommend it, but it worked for you.. and w/ds only lasted 14 days before you felt normal again.. This is fairly short term withdrawal compared to some of the other stories Ive read from people. Also how low of a dose of sub were you taking before you started the short acting opiates? Id assume part of the reason your withdrawal was more intense as you described it is because you were also experiencing withdrawl from the benzos. Perhaps after the 3 weeks you tapered your morphine/vicoden dose way down for a period of 1 week, your symptoms would have dissapated sooner??

Im really interested in hearing more experiences in long term bupe use, then going back to short acting opiates for a short period, before jumping off. Im curious how long the suboxone will actually stay within your system, and how it affects you after stopping bupe completely and using short acting opiates for a short period (3-4 weeks)..

Glenbee, yes thanks for clearing up PAWS, and precipitated whitdrawal for me. That is exactly what I was speaking of. My head was a bit clouded yesterday with so much stress going on, and I was having troubles explaining myself effectively.
I do recall now reading that taking opiates when you have suboxone in your system wont harm you, as the bupe or naloxone ?? wont allow the opiate onto the receptor. And if you take sub too soon after an opiate, as you explained it will be kicked off the receptor causing the precipitated withdrawals.. Thanks again for clearing that up. Its been such a long time since I read about how this medication actually works I seem to have forgotten many of the important points.
I appreciate the reply, and your advice seems pretty sound to me.. my problem is I dont think Im going to have much luck finding a sub doctor near me, as I have been hearing many people around me complaining for atleast a year now that they are unable to get into the sub program because doctors are full and not taking any patients. People in my age group and perhaps geographical location seem to have all fallen into opiate abuse very early on, and I would absolutely say its a pandemic in my area, and Im sure many other places are quite the same.. These drs are literally making millions at our expense.