Do the 12-step programs really work?

Author: Breezy_Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:13 pm

This discussion wasn’t about people on bup feeling comfortable in na, it was about the effectiveness of na. Your prior posts were stating that na doesn’t work and the argument back was that for some it does, to each there own. No one was talking specifically about sub patients and na, we were discussing na’s effectiveness for all addicts.

I have not attended na and one of the reasons is what you stated above, among others. I can not answer your question from personal experience. From posts I’ve read not all groups are the same and some are very tolerant/supportive of bup. I have also read people who choose to go to na and not tell that they are on bup and find the over all message of the 12 steps to be beneficial to them. Lastly I have read accounts of bup patients whom do not believe themselves to be "clean" on sub and are using na with the goal of being substance free.

Everyone has different views and different things they find useful for recovery. I think the real question here is why you care how others decide to go about recovery? It is not up to you to question what tools anybody chooses to use for their recovery. You don’t have to like na but that doesn’t mean others can’t, they really owe you no explanation at all. Just as you owe no explanation to someone who dislikes sub.

Do the 12-step programs really work?

Author: Breezy_Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:13 pm

This discussion wasn’t about people on bup feeling comfortable in na, it was about the effectiveness of na. Your prior posts were stating that na doesn’t work and the argument back was that for some it does, to each there own. No one was talking specifically about sub patients and na, we were discussing na’s effectiveness for all addicts.

I have not attended na and one of the reasons is what you stated above, among others. I can not answer your question from personal experience. From posts I’ve read not all groups are the same and some are very tolerant/supportive of bup. I have also read people who choose to go to na and not tell that they are on bup and find the over all message of the 12 steps to be beneficial to them. Lastly I have read accounts of bup patients whom do not believe themselves to be "clean" on sub and are using na with the goal of being substance free.

Everyone has different views and different things they find useful for recovery. I think the real question here is why you care how others decide to go about recovery? It is not up to you to question what tools anybody chooses to use for their recovery. You don’t have to like na but that doesn’t mean others can’t, they really owe you no explanation at all. Just as you owe no explanation to someone who dislikes sub.