Difference between methadone and Suboxone?

Author: One day ata Time

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:25 pm

First off Mr. Romeo; I am sorry that you have such angst for me. yes I do have a very strong opinion about Methadone. But Please Stop putting words in my mouth or say that i said this or that. people can read what i said and infer their own opinion rather than you telling what I meant to say. if you read my post about Hitler, I stated that he was addicted to Methadone. That is a fact. He abused it, any use which is considered abuse is also I believe an addiction. Was his addicition to Methadone or the other drugs that he took the Main Reason why Hitler was such a Lunatic..NO..and I NEVER said such a Thing. His use of the drug was addictive, and yes that addiction to that drug and others were a major cause for his Idiotic thought process "About how he fought the war Effort" I believe that is what I said or posted. Now how you seem to want to have such hatred for me that you start mis-quoting me is beyond me. I have said nor done anything to you. I have never posted anything about Romeo before you started your effort to demonize me…why I ask this ? I have an opinion, this is the USA, am In not fully able to express myself about my own personal beliefs about this drug ????..I would ask that You never again mis-quote any of my posts, and from now on leave me out of any discussion that you make, and I too will avoid you like the Plague, I am here for help and to try my best to help others. These other people can make up their own minds without anyone telling that he/she–said this or that. grow up and stop your campaign against other posters……….Now if you would care to PM about this mess and maybe work this out in Private I would be willing to do just that, but please if you have such anger towards me then just avoid me…………….Now about BBoy, you stated that I have a strong opinion about these so-called Methadone Clinics, and yes I do. but then you go onto to say that I have opinions but none of them are based on facts. Again, have you read everything that I posted?? I said that I have a friend that is a Parole Officer and that he knows allot about these LOCAL to Me Methadone clinics. So I am going off of someone that has intimate knowledge. Again, I have an Opinion, if you dis-agree that is fine. But please do not mis-quote me or try to tell someone else what I had said or posted, you know other people can make up their own minds about anyone’s words. We don’t need people to explain what other people said. When you do that You make it Personal, I have Never said anything Personal, but you 2 chosen to get Personal..Why I have No Idea. I have just explained my Opinion. Could it be that you do not agree with my Opinion? If so then that is your right, but keep it to yourself. It says in the statement of the Forums rules to NOT Debate people. I believe you 2 are trying to start a Debate. If you want to PM me I would be more than willing to carry this on in private. if you do you will more than likely find out that we 3 agree on way more than we dis-agree on. You will also find that I am very nice guy as I am sure you 2 are as well. However, this is a place to help but not a place to debate. If I have said anything that has personally offended anyone I am sorry. But I can not think of anything that I have posted that has gone Personal.
As for y Story, it is on this Forum for all to read if you search my posts but for the sake of trying to clear the air here. I lost my Health Insurance, the company that I worked for went belly up closed their doors and gave us a week’s notice, no one knew it was bad or een that bad. They basically just turned all the employees worlds upside down. At the time I was at a Pain Mangement clinic and had been with that clinic for almost 3 years. I cobra-ed my Insurance as long as I could and it ran out, yes I had to pay$500/month whilst being unemployed but I did it. When I lost my cobra Insurance the Pain Management clinic dropped me, they gave me a month’s supply of the Norcos that I was taking at the time 6x10mg Norcos/daily. I called and called and searched for Insurance before my cobra ran out but not one Insurance company would Insure me, the 2 that would had a ridiculous Pre-existing condition waiver that meant that I could not use the Insurance for any purpose for the first year, yes ANY Use. I then scrambled and called 100’s of Doctors, I found one that my friends wife worked at. She assured me that it was all good, that she had talked to the Doctor about me specifically and he said that he could and would help me. I had to wait 3 weeks to get into to see him. The day came and I went to see this Doctor, he immediately told me that he does NOT hand out pain medication nor does he want to get involved with giving out pain medication. I was shocked, as my friend assured me that she talked specifically to this Doctor about my condition and use of pain meds. Here I was left with no Doctor and a week’s worth of pain meds. Finally after4 straight days on the phone, and I might also add no sleep for worrying my ass off… I finally found a Neurologist that sees people with Chronic pain and these people do Not have to have Health Insurance. And he would see me with just 1 day to spare before I completely ran out of my Norcos. The day came to see this last hope for me, he the Doctor came in and without any conversation he said that he was putting me on Methadone. I asked him if he would just continue the Norcos, because I had been on them for 8 years and did very well with them. But No he said this is what I have prescribed, you are welcomed to see another Doctor if you wish. So you see I had no choice, either just go cold turkey with no medication or try the Methadone. Here 2 years later I am on Suboxone to get off of the Methadone. As you can guess that Pain Doctor did not care what I had to say about my health or how I felt on Methadone, I kept pleading and pleading to please with him to take me off of it and put me on anything but Methadone. He said NO, you can always go to another Doctor, but there were No Other Doctors. But there was another Doctor…..I finally heard about Suboxone, I searched Google for local drug addiction clinics, and found nothing, never not once did the word SUBOXONE come up in any google search. I heard about Suboxone from someone that was buying street drugs. I don’t have or dont consider myself an addict so much as I am fully completely Chemically addicted to Methadone. I tried and tired for the past 8 months to get myself off of it. I went 2 weeks once to rid myself of it. But I failed and had to go back on it..but not this time..Methadone and my use of it helped to ruin the last 2 years of my life……………..Yes; I have a very strong opinion about Methadone and it is very negative. Can you not understand why? Methadone is known to be harder to kick than Heroin, do we really want to be taking something for pain that is that hard on your body, and that hard to get off of ? Had I known now about Methadone I NEVER would have started taking it NEVER. I would had suffered thru the Norco withdrawals as they are far easier than Methadone withdrawals anyday of the week. Are there not other pain drugs that would work just as well ? That is my belief. Sorry for the rant and long winded speech, but you asked so I answered it. I just want to share my bad experience about Methadone, do I sit here and tell people they are crazy for taking it..NO and I never have, nor Never will. It is your life, but you do deserve all the facts and opinions if you so desire. To that end, I posted my opinion…..it is just my opinion. Why is that such a bad thing to where you would start bashing me(to those that did)(others have not; and have even thanked me for my opinion) ?

Difference between methadone and Suboxone?

Author: One day ata Time

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:25 pm

First off Mr. Romeo; I am sorry that you have such angst for me. yes I do have a very strong opinion about Methadone. But Please Stop putting words in my mouth or say that i said this or that. people can read what i said and infer their own opinion rather than you telling what I meant to say. if you read my post about Hitler, I stated that he was addicted to Methadone. That is a fact. He abused it, any use which is considered abuse is also I believe an addiction. Was his addicition to Methadone or the other drugs that he took the Main Reason why Hitler was such a Lunatic..NO..and I NEVER said such a Thing. His use of the drug was addictive, and yes that addiction to that drug and others were a major cause for his Idiotic thought process "About how he fought the war Effort" I believe that is what I said or posted. Now how you seem to want to have such hatred for me that you start mis-quoting me is beyond me. I have said nor done anything to you. I have never posted anything about Romeo before you started your effort to demonize me…why I ask this ? I have an opinion, this is the USA, am In not fully able to express myself about my own personal beliefs about this drug ????..I would ask that You never again mis-quote any of my posts, and from now on leave me out of any discussion that you make, and I too will avoid you like the Plague, I am here for help and to try my best to help others. These other people can make up their own minds without anyone telling that he/she–said this or that. grow up and stop your campaign against other posters……….Now if you would care to PM about this mess and maybe work this out in Private I would be willing to do just that, but please if you have such anger towards me then just avoid me…………….Now about BBoy, you stated that I have a strong opinion about these so-called Methadone Clinics, and yes I do. but then you go onto to say that I have opinions but none of them are based on facts. Again, have you read everything that I posted?? I said that I have a friend that is a Parole Officer and that he knows allot about these LOCAL to Me Methadone clinics. So I am going off of someone that has intimate knowledge. Again, I have an Opinion, if you dis-agree that is fine. But please do not mis-quote me or try to tell someone else what I had said or posted, you know other people can make up their own minds about anyone’s words. We don’t need people to explain what other people said. When you do that You make it Personal, I have Never said anything Personal, but you 2 chosen to get Personal..Why I have No Idea. I have just explained my Opinion. Could it be that you do not agree with my Opinion? If so then that is your right, but keep it to yourself. It says in the statement of the Forums rules to NOT Debate people. I believe you 2 are trying to start a Debate. If you want to PM me I would be more than willing to carry this on in private. if you do you will more than likely find out that we 3 agree on way more than we dis-agree on. You will also find that I am very nice guy as I am sure you 2 are as well. However, this is a place to help but not a place to debate. If I have said anything that has personally offended anyone I am sorry. But I can not think of anything that I have posted that has gone Personal.
As for y Story, it is on this Forum for all to read if you search my posts but for the sake of trying to clear the air here. I lost my Health Insurance, the company that I worked for went belly up closed their doors and gave us a week’s notice, no one knew it was bad or een that bad. They basically just turned all the employees worlds upside down. At the time I was at a Pain Mangement clinic and had been with that clinic for almost 3 years. I cobra-ed my Insurance as long as I could and it ran out, yes I had to pay$500/month whilst being unemployed but I did it. When I lost my cobra Insurance the Pain Management clinic dropped me, they gave me a month’s supply of the Norcos that I was taking at the time 6x10mg Norcos/daily. I called and called and searched for Insurance before my cobra ran out but not one Insurance company would Insure me, the 2 that would had a ridiculous Pre-existing condition waiver that meant that I could not use the Insurance for any purpose for the first year, yes ANY Use. I then scrambled and called 100’s of Doctors, I found one that my friends wife worked at. She assured me that it was all good, that she had talked to the Doctor about me specifically and he said that he could and would help me. I had to wait 3 weeks to get into to see him. The day came and I went to see this Doctor, he immediately told me that he does NOT hand out pain medication nor does he want to get involved with giving out pain medication. I was shocked, as my friend assured me that she talked specifically to this Doctor about my condition and use of pain meds. Here I was left with no Doctor and a week’s worth of pain meds. Finally after4 straight days on the phone, and I might also add no sleep for worrying my ass off… I finally found a Neurologist that sees people with Chronic pain and these people do Not have to have Health Insurance. And he would see me with just 1 day to spare before I completely ran out of my Norcos. The day came to see this last hope for me, he the Doctor came in and without any conversation he said that he was putting me on Methadone. I asked him if he would just continue the Norcos, because I had been on them for 8 years and did very well with them. But No he said this is what I have prescribed, you are welcomed to see another Doctor if you wish. So you see I had no choice, either just go cold turkey with no medication or try the Methadone. Here 2 years later I am on Suboxone to get off of the Methadone. As you can guess that Pain Doctor did not care what I had to say about my health or how I felt on Methadone, I kept pleading and pleading to please with him to take me off of it and put me on anything but Methadone. He said NO, you can always go to another Doctor, but there were No Other Doctors. But there was another Doctor…..I finally heard about Suboxone, I searched Google for local drug addiction clinics, and found nothing, never not once did the word SUBOXONE come up in any google search. I heard about Suboxone from someone that was buying street drugs. I don’t have or dont consider myself an addict so much as I am fully completely Chemically addicted to Methadone. I tried and tired for the past 8 months to get myself off of it. I went 2 weeks once to rid myself of it. But I failed and had to go back on it..but not this time..Methadone and my use of it helped to ruin the last 2 years of my life……………..Yes; I have a very strong opinion about Methadone and it is very negative. Can you not understand why? Methadone is known to be harder to kick than Heroin, do we really want to be taking something for pain that is that hard on your body, and that hard to get off of ? Had I known now about Methadone I NEVER would have started taking it NEVER. I would had suffered thru the Norco withdrawals as they are far easier than Methadone withdrawals anyday of the week. Are there not other pain drugs that would work just as well ? That is my belief. Sorry for the rant and long winded speech, but you asked so I answered it. I just want to share my bad experience about Methadone, do I sit here and tell people they are crazy for taking it..NO and I never have, nor Never will. It is your life, but you do deserve all the facts and opinions if you so desire. To that end, I posted my opinion…..it is just my opinion. Why is that such a bad thing to where you would start bashing me(to those that did)(others have not; and have even thanked me for my opinion) ?