Author: donh

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:42 am

Well that answers that… if Sub didn’t work all that well in the past, there is no reason to think it would work any better now. I somehow thought that you did just fine while on the Sub. Although, just because you feel "something" does not mean you are getting high from it. I mean, you’ll feel "something" if you take Benedryl, some muscle relaxers, etc. That does not mean that you are getting high or euphoria from it. I can fully appreciate that once you have gotten passed the withdrawals and PAWS of getting off of Sub you don’t want to go back again. I would feel differently if you were telling me you did very well and had few if any relapses while on Sub. That doesn’t seem to be the case.

Hellmuth, I guess I’m not even sure what to say to you. I see you are new here – or at least have only posted a handful of times, so I don’t want to run you off or anything, but geeze man, you almost sound like you know NOTHING about addiction. Are you even someone who has been addicted? I really have to ask that as you sound exactly like those who have never dealt with this God awfull illness and have a family member who they just tell "well what’s the problem, man up and stop taking drugs, that’s all there is to it." As if it’s just that simple. Then I read:

"Each day he will be adding one more brick to his house of happiness if he just follows these 2 simple rules. 1. no more drugs ever again, no god damm excuses, man up! 2. Do the right thing (love and support your family, be kind to people, help others, just be the best person you can be and give back to society as much as you can)"

TWO SIMPLE RULES – are you frikin kidding me? SIMPLE??????? No more drugs ever again. Oh, yeah, sure, simple… no problem. You have solved drug addiction for all of us… it’s SIMPLE, just don’t ever take drugs again. Problem solved,… next. That’s like the old Steve Martin Joke of how to be a millionaire… "First, get a million dollars, then…" I mean really, you can’t be serious. SIMPLE RULE, just don’t do drugs. Let’s not forget simple rule number two of "do the right thing". I mean where else can I even go with this?

Ladder – Holy Shit and wow… what an awesome post! We are all extreemly lucky to have someone like you around here. You cut to the heart of the matter better than many addiction "professionals" could/would. Thanks for taking the time and having the guts and smarts to do it!!!! Just wow!

Thanks again Romeo for your honesty. I really don’t know if any of us have helped you, but I have no doubt that you have helped many of us just by being willing to post all of this!