Trying to quit 7 years subutex & few questions

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Author: Icaras

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:36 pm

hopespring wrote:
Hello Fellow buper,

You are asking some good questions, and I see that there have been some good answers,. listen to Glen bee.

Just taper, based on how you feel, not some spreadsheet or plan.
As glen bee said, just do it as you feel.
I went at my own pace, and went from 5 years @ 10mg to .04 mg over a taering period of 2.5 years.
I made guides, and plans on paper, for the tapering, but invariably, they were never used.

I gave my self 12 months to go from 1 mg to .04mg.
I would use sleep, and how I felt, as indicators when to drop.
I also used my symptoms, as a guide, like RLS, etc.

I agree that there are not too many mental issues, and stopping this drug, is 10000% easier, than you fear.

Just know, you’ll have a few months of bad sleep, and a few minor pains.

I would keep tapering, as you have said, and go low, my friend, the lower you go, the less wd u get.
It cannot be put in simpler terms.

At your dose, I went like .2mg every month, or if i felt a bit rough, I would stay an extra month, on that dose.

Please trust me, that whilst tapering, you recptors are still full of opiates.
even though we think we should feel bad , when tapering, in actualy fact, at the right reduction, you feel, jst as good , as you do, on a stable dose.

You body/brain, is just not that clever to detect differences, in small amounts,

.2 mg per month, and if you get issues, just hold an extra month.
Go to under .1, and you will be laughing, all the way to freedoms shore.

Hopespring

Here is my Journey
http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7766

And here is my recovery

http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7984&start=25

]]

Hey there Hopes, I do appreciate your input thank you.

By advising to go 0.2 a month isn’t that simply accumulating the bup? I was hoping to be off by August at the latest so I don’t have to detox in the Winter and so I can at least work for a considerable amount if time. Mind you I have not felt too bad tapering since I started few years back. I am only feeling some pshycal symptoms now as I went off bup for about 12 days due to running out of supplies, during that time I took codeine, but I had to take loads in order to feel semi decent.. When I did eventually get some more bup I tried to go back on the same dose that I left (1mg) but could not stabilize properly, it was not agonizing but a menace, now 6 days later I feel as though Ive stabilized on 1.8mg, but I will go down to 1mg by next week hopefully and continue.

Can I ask is it possible to use 6-7 months to taper from here on in to 0 rather then a year?

does exercise speed up the tapering process? because I do a lot of sports during the Summer, hence why I think tapering during this phase and jumping in late summer may be the best option for me.

Can I ask if taking a Naltrexone tablet at the end of my taper may flush out the bup quicker? perhaps take half of a naltrexone tablet or even less? am not saying I want to do this but just trying to get people’s opinions on this.. There is one person who took 50mg Naltrexone tablet and claimed he flushed out the bup, thought he went through an agonizing 18 hours of withdrawals, so am wondering would it be possible to use some Naltrexone at the end of a taper if it means speeding up recovery? it’s sort of "do it at home-rapid detox"

I also read some posts of a user here called Laddertipper. I must say am a bit concerned because she weaned down very low and slow and then relapse about a year later on alcohol and was asking for antidepressant suggestions here? could this be related to the PAWS she was having prior?

thank you again for taking your time to read my concerns.

Trying to quit 7 years subutex & few questions

Posted on by

Author: Icaras

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:36 pm

hopespring wrote:
Hello Fellow buper,

You are asking some good questions, and I see that there have been some good answers,. listen to Glen bee.

Just taper, based on how you feel, not some spreadsheet or plan.
As glen bee said, just do it as you feel.
I went at my own pace, and went from 5 years @ 10mg to .04 mg over a taering period of 2.5 years.
I made guides, and plans on paper, for the tapering, but invariably, they were never used.

I gave my self 12 months to go from 1 mg to .04mg.
I would use sleep, and how I felt, as indicators when to drop.
I also used my symptoms, as a guide, like RLS, etc.

I agree that there are not too many mental issues, and stopping this drug, is 10000% easier, than you fear.

Just know, you’ll have a few months of bad sleep, and a few minor pains.

I would keep tapering, as you have said, and go low, my friend, the lower you go, the less wd u get.
It cannot be put in simpler terms.

At your dose, I went like .2mg every month, or if i felt a bit rough, I would stay an extra month, on that dose.

Please trust me, that whilst tapering, you recptors are still full of opiates.
even though we think we should feel bad , when tapering, in actualy fact, at the right reduction, you feel, jst as good , as you do, on a stable dose.

You body/brain, is just not that clever to detect differences, in small amounts,

.2 mg per month, and if you get issues, just hold an extra month.
Go to under .1, and you will be laughing, all the way to freedoms shore.

Hopespring

Here is my Journey
http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7766

And here is my recovery

http://suboxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7984&start=25

]]

Hey there Hopes, I do appreciate your input thank you.

By advising to go 0.2 a month isn’t that simply accumulating the bup? I was hoping to be off by August at the latest so I don’t have to detox in the Winter and so I can at least work for a considerable amount if time. Mind you I have not felt too bad tapering since I started few years back. I am only feeling some pshycal symptoms now as I went off bup for about 12 days due to running out of supplies, during that time I took codeine, but I had to take loads in order to feel semi decent.. When I did eventually get some more bup I tried to go back on the same dose that I left (1mg) but could not stabilize properly, it was not agonizing but a menace, now 6 days later I feel as though Ive stabilized on 1.8mg, but I will go down to 1mg by next week hopefully and continue.

Can I ask is it possible to use 6-7 months to taper from here on in to 0 rather then a year?

does exercise speed up the tapering process? because I do a lot of sports during the Summer, hence why I think tapering during this phase and jumping in late summer may be the best option for me.

Can I ask if taking a Naltrexone tablet at the end of my taper may flush out the bup quicker? perhaps take half of a naltrexone tablet or even less? am not saying I want to do this but just trying to get people’s opinions on this.. There is one person who took 50mg Naltrexone tablet and claimed he flushed out the bup, thought he went through an agonizing 18 hours of withdrawals, so am wondering would it be possible to use some Naltrexone at the end of a taper if it means speeding up recovery? it’s sort of "do it at home-rapid detox"

I also read some posts of a user here called Laddertipper. I must say am a bit concerned because she weaned down very low and slow and then relapse about a year later on alcohol and was asking for antidepressant suggestions here? could this be related to the PAWS she was having prior?

thank you again for taking your time to read my concerns.